This thread is starting to sound a bit hostile.  Can we back up and 
assume good faith?


On Aug 15, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Thomas Gries <[email protected]> wrote:

> Am 15.08.2012 23:11, schrieb Ryan Lane:
>>> it is not.
>>> OpenID adds only a short table to the database, where the OpenID is
>>> connected with the (local wiki) userid.
>>> Where exactly is the blocking problem for you ?
>>> 
>> It's not a technical problem, per se. It's mainly a usability issue.
>> When you allow login as a consumer, you now have two login links. One
>> link is for logging in with your password credentials and another is
>> with OpenID. This is confusing for people who don't know what OpenID
>> is.
>> 
>> Assuming everyone has some knowledge of OpenID (which is a stupid
>> assumption, but let's play along), what do you display on the OpenID
>> login page? Do we have logos that people can click to login to a
>> provider? If so, which logos do we show? Why are we showing *those*
>> providers and not others? How do you login with OpenID for providers
>> not shown? A text box where they can enter the URL? Many OpenID URLs
>> are long, ugly, and totally un-memberable, which means people will
>> need to search for their provider URL when they want to login.
> it seems, that you have /never /installed the Extension. Because then
> you would not have asked these questions.
>> Let's assume people are logging in with OpenID. Now there's a
>> possibility of users getting locked out of their accounts because
>> their provider went away. Yes, we can allow users to have passwords on
>> the site too, but then we have two methods of authentication, which
>> increases the risk of accounts getting owned. Additionally, now we
>> have to worry about a provider getting owned and all accounts
>> associated with that provider being owned as a result.
>> 
>> OpenID as a consumer on the sites without fixing the usability issues
>> is simply not going to happen. The security issues are a worry too,
>> but less so than the usability issues.
>> 
>> - Ryan
> 
> Ryan,
> it seems, that you have never installed the Extension. Because then you
> would not have asked the questions.
> 
> 
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