On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Ryan Kaldari <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hey Tyler,
> Many of these issues have already been discussed on this mailing list. Read
> Rob and Tim's emails from last week to start with. As explained in the
> previous emails, the extension being deployed is Scribunto. Regarding
> performance testing, Rob said this would be done once the extension was
> deployed to mediawiki.org: "From there, we'll need some time figuring out
> the performance characteristics of this (making sure we're actually coming
> out ahead) as well as converting some key templates over." Many of the
> other questions are covered at
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto.
>
> And not to be overly dismissive, but the idea that Tim needs to prove that
> en.wiki wants this feature is absurd. The template system on Wikipedia is
> BROKEN. It takes over 30 seconds for the parser to render large articles,
> and articles with a really large number of citation templates can't render
> at all, they simply error with a timeout. The only reason Lua/Scribunto was
> developed is because the en.wiki community has been vocally complaining
> about this problem FOR 3 YEARS. Check out
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 for example.
>
> Ryan Kaldari
>

Furthermore, mediawiki.org is a community essentially owned by the
developers, not to mention this
feature is non-user facing. If people don't want to use it, they don't have to.

I do believe consensus should be sought when enabling extensions like
moodbar and what not on enwikipedia,
but this is nothing like that situation.

--bawolff

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