On 22 August 2012 17:17, Ryan Lane <[email protected]> wrote: > > I hear what you're saying Ryan - although in fairness there is some > history > > there, and also some very significant challenges on all sides to actually > > communicate. However, one has to keep in mind that sometimes the > > definition of "end user" can be pretty different. On reading this > thread, > > I have the sense that lots of people commenting here see template > > creators/curators as the "end user" - but they aren't in any conventional > > sense. The end user is the person who actually uses the template. > > > > The end-users for scribunto are template editors. The way the template > is called from articles is almost exactly the same. The syntax is so > similar to how it currently is that It does nothing to change the > experience for a normal editor. > > I'd bet that most templates will keep the same arguments when switched > over, and the syntax will be mass changed by a bot. > > - >
Hmm. I can understand why scribunto is targeted at template editors - although the argument that the end user is *not* the person using the template is kind of like saying the end-user of a car isn't the driver. Nonetheless, it would be nice not to have browser crashes when opening articles that have tons of templates, so there's still an important win there. If the use of templates is going to be as miserable after this switch as it is now, then there's a significant opportunity missed. (I know at least 30 people who stopped editing at least in part because of the template morass we currently have. Some of them wrote featured content.) Nonetheless, it's still important to have template *users* try out templates created using scribunto to make sure that they do actually work as expected. Then I guess the fun will be in determining if any problems come from scribunto or from the template writer's work. Risker/Anne _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
