James Forrester wrote:
> On 20 September 2012 08:54, Quim Gil <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Alright, let's move onto the next round: which dev hub?
>> 
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_developer_hub
>> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_hub
>> 
>> mediawiki.org is a better default landing place for developers than
>> Meta, do you agree?
>> 
>> Is it worth considering the merge of both pages, as it has been suggested?
>> 
>> And in any case the API should be promoted upfront. Now the Meta hub
>> has no mention (I could find) while the dense MediaWiki hub features
>> the link if you are patient to find it (or you use the search, as I
>> did).
> 
> Of course, we already have a link to the mediawiki.org front page on
> every page we serve - that's what the "Powered by MediaWiki" button
> links to. There, the four most prominent links are:
> 
> * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki
> * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Installation
> * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration
> * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker
> 
> I assumed that the point of this additional link was to take people to
> our API because we already use our bully-pulpit to ask for more
> developers quite strongly, but people who want to use us as a service
> need to dig further to even know we have one. If all we're doing is
> duplicating the general "hey, you're a techy person" link with another
> text label, this exercise will have lost its value.

Hi!

Sorry for starting this thread and then disappearing for a bit; it's been a
busy week.

I've taken the (wonderful!) comments in this thread and on bug 33464 and
synthesized them into a requests for comment here:
<https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?curid=99106>.

To address your point specifically, the "Powered By MediaWiki" button is a
bit of promotion (or advertising, branding, whatever) for the MediaWiki
software. What we're discussing here is something different. Based on how
other sites behave, I think there's a reasonable expectation that if you
want to figure out, generically, how to get involved, looking in the footer
of the Web site is a reasonable place to start.

Most of my thoughts are in the RFC now on mediawiki.org, but my big
revelation earlier this week was that I don't think we really have an
audience problem as some have suggested. The people we want to attract are
all developers (which is why I suggested using "Developers" as the link
text).

That said, I think the first step in the landing page should be to split _by
motivation_:

* are you wanting to re-use Wikimedia wikis' content; or
* are you wanting to contribute code to Wikimedia/MediaWiki?

>From there, you can sub-divide based on programming language, component
(user interface, ops, etc.), and a bunch of other variables. My mock-up for
the tree/matrix/wizard is here:
<https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?oldid=585564#Blueprint>.

MZMcBride



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