On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Mark A. Hershberger <[email protected]> 
wrote:
> On 10/16/2012 11:45 AM, Tyler Romeo wrote:
>> There should be some general
>> idea of at least what is planned for a release before the code is actually
>> written.
>
> This would mean getting any non-WMF contributors (the volunteers) to
> spec out what they planned to work on before hand and be committed to
> actually delivering it.
>
> I'm not sure that is realistic.
>
> It is realistic is getting a schedule for WMF-sponsored work, but a good
> deal of that is not going to interest the average MW admin since it is
> focused on Wikipedia.
>
> As a sort of compromise, maybe we could write up a list of new features
> MediaWiki administrators would find useful a month before the release is
> planned.  By that time, we've got a very good idea of what is going to
> be in it.
>
> It could be that I'm just too pessimistic, but I think that comes from
> my introduction to the term "Cookie-Licking".
>

Indeed, I agree on all the points here. Lots of things happen in
development because somebody has been working on something
and then commits it. This is perfectly ok--we don't want to
discourage anyone by saying "That's not on the plan."

I think the idea of starting the general release notes maybe a month
(or two) out from release is a good idea. It allows the release to start
taking shape and we can start targeting a sane branch point. It also
would happen when we generally start to "slush" master and ask
people to hold off on earth-shattering changes since a branch point is
coming up.

-Chad

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