On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Victor Vasiliev <vasi...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi everybody,
>
> For long time it was acknowledged that our current way of serving the
> recent changes feed to users (IRC with formatting using funny control
> codes) is one of the worst-suited for this purpose. It made the life
> miserable both for users who had to parse it (since nobody is actually
> reading it from IRC)

Note that some people *are* actually reading it from IRC. For example,
I read it when I'm starting a bot run, if the bot is made quickly and
doesn't output much info.

-Liangent

> and for developers who had to fit that thing into
> IRC line length limit. Time passed, and many ways were suggested to fix
> this (including <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Recentchanges_via_XMPP>
> and
> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Structured_data_push_notification_support_for_recent_changes>),
> but
> nobody actually went ahead and made it work.
>
> After recent discussion on this list I realized that this has been in
> discussion for as long as four years I went WTF and decided to Just Go
> Ahead and Fix It. As a result, I made a patch to MediaWiki which allows
> it to output recent changes feed in JSON:
>    <https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/52922/>
>
> Also, I wrote a daemon which captures this feed and serves them through
> WebSockets and simple text-oriented protocol which serves same JSON
> without WebSocket wrapping (for poor souls writing in languages without
> proper WebSocket support):
>     <https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-rcsub>
>
> This daemon is written in Python using Twisted and Autobahn and it takes
> ~200 lines of code (initial version took ~80).
>
> As a bonus, this involves no XML streaming in any form (unlike XMPP or
> PubSubHubbub), so the unicorns are happy and unharmed, and minds of
> programmers implementing this will remain unfried.
>
> I hope that now getting recent changes via reasonable format is a matter
> of code review and deployment, and we will finally get something
> reasonable to work with (with access from web browsers!).
>
> - -- Victor.
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