On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Matthew Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> We enabled it for about an hour previously (before reverting due to
>> the centralauth bug), and the change was barely noticeable in ganglia.
>
>
> Do we have numbers on what this did to the number of active editors during
> that time period? Esp. broken down on a per country basis?
>
> I think I want to agree with Petr -- we should not be forcing SSL always;
> we should be respecting what the user requested. In that way if it ever
> becomes enforced by a government that SSL is disallowed users may still
> contribute to the site. (Remember we block things like Tor so they can't
> even proxy around it.)
I don't want to drag this thread into politics, but the comparison
with blocking Tor is really not appropriate. Tor is blocked because it
would disrupt the work of the editing community, not to satisfy the
requirements of governments. And it would seem extremely weird to let
the current policies of the Iranian regime alongside a past measure of
the Belarusian one determine the default setup of Wikimedia sites.

>
> Perhaps we should just make it really obvious on the login page (e.g. big
> button to login via SSL, small button to not do so.)
>
> ~Matt Walker
> Wikimedia Foundation
> Fundraising Technology Team
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Chris Steipp <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Faidon Liambotis <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > That being said, my gut tells me that making all the logins SSL-enabled
>> > is not going to make a significant difference compared to current usage,
>> > but I don't have any numbers to back this up right now. Maybe Ryan has
>> > them.
>>
>> We enabled it for about an hour previously (before reverting due to
>> the centralauth bug), and the change was barely noticeable in ganglia.
>>
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