On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Steven Walling
<[email protected]>wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Brion Vibber <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > I'd recommend against building any specific 'app' for a web-based OS like
> > this, but if we can have a Chrome Web Store entry that conveniently
> > bookmarks us and that makes us easier to use, well that'd be awesome.
> >
>
> You mean you recommend against OS-specific apps, like we have specific apps
> for Windows Phone, iOS, and Android? ;)
>

Windows Phone, iOS, and Android aren't web-based OSs -- a web site doesn't
get full access to the system on them.

We are currently working on OS-specific (not HTML-based) apps for iOS and
Android for the Commons photo uploader, but Firefox OS and Chrome OS get to
make do with the web sites. :)

Note that we don't have a Windows Phone app at all (though there are some
third-party ones -- and we do have a Windows 8 tablet app that's mostly
experimental). The official iOS and Android Wikipedia apps in the stores
are currently unmaintained, and will get replaced in a few months...

We're still evaluating how much balancing between native code and web-based
code to use on the new versions (ultimately a Wikipedia app is a big
wrapper around a web view with the actual content; we'll move at least some
of the chrome out to native for performance and integration reasons). But
we do know we don't want to use the "pure locally-hosted HTML 5 app stuck
in a WebView" approach of PhoneGap, which required us to have two HTML
frontends (the site, and the app) *and* be stuck with the limitations of
mobile web browsers *and* have to debug the framework ourselves a lot. :)


> Snark aside: what you proposed is essentially how most Chrome apps work and
> is easiest to implement. For HTML5 games and such, I'm sure it's more
> app-like in that you may not be able to launch the game without installing
> the app, but most people basically just redirect users to the normal site.
> Obviously this makes the use of the name "app" seem bizarre, but the
> advantage for ChromeOS users is that we make it easier to get back to
> Wikipedia. (One step instead of three.)
>

Excellent. :)

-- brion
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