On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Mark A. Hershberger <[email protected]>wrote:

> On 07/22/2013 09:20 AM, Derric Atzrott wrote:
> > If we require composer, we require users to learn to use composer.
> > Some like myself have never used it, and while it’s a skill I should
> > probably learn that will save me considerable time, it may be that
> > not all will find being forced to learn a new piece of software so great.
> >
> > Of course I could be missing something here.
>
> Composer is becoming widely used in the PHP universe.  If your only
> focus of development is MediaWiki, then, yes, this is a pain.
>
> However, the use of composer could open up whole new possibilities.  For
> the old Perl hands, composer is a lot like cpan.  There are a lot of
> ugly things in there, but it doesn't take too much to find some really
> useful re-usable components.
>
> And composer would only be a requirement for developers, not end users.
>  There is no reason that we can't still distribute tarballs that a
> Sysadmin who just maintains a wiki or a wiki farm today would install in
> the same way he currently does.
>

Telling me it's like cpan just brings back awful awful memories...

And a developer, please don't *require* me to use Composer. Don't want
it, don't need it.

-Chad
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