Minimal java-script load my ass, I guess you must be using a fiber-optic
connection. Most pages already have a lag due to the amount of JS needed to
run the site. Jumping pages have been a normal thing since resourceloader
(caused by lagging JS issues)

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Erik Moeller <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Tyler Romeo <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Seriously, though, I understand why the VE team might want to force
> > everybody to use VE
>
> That's a misrepresentation of the facts. We're not talking about
> "forcing people to use VE". We're talking about whether there should
> be a preference to hide all aspects of VE from the user interface. The
> default behavior is that both modes coexist. Nobody is forced to use
> VE, and it adds minimal JavaScript footprint if it is not used.
>
> The default experience clearly still has room for improvement for
> users who prefer wikitext. In my view, in order of priority:
>
> 1) Section editing behavior - the hybrid link display is mildly
> annoying, and doesn't work for touch interfaces;
> 2) Inconsistent labels across namespaces - "Edit source" label should
> probably be consistently used;
> 3) Further tweaks to tab loading to minimize any delay in rendering.
>
> If these issues are addressed now, the only one that remains for users
> preferring wikitext is getting used to the presence of a new tab in
> the interface, which I do think is a reasonable change to not offer a
> specific preference for. (I'm not talking about VE edit
> bugs/problematic edits in this context as that's a separate issue.)
>
> Erik
>
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