On Aug 17, 2013, at 1:33 PM, rupert THURNER <[email protected]> wrote:
> hi faidon, i do not think you personally and WMF are particularly > helpful in accepting contributions. because you: > * do not communicate openly the problems > * do not report upstream publically > * do not ask for help, and even if it gets offered you just ignore it > with quite some arrogance Rupert, please don't call out or attack specific people. We're all on the same team, and I can assure you that Faidon, as well as Ryan and the rest of the team, are as eager as anyone else to provide more security and crypto capability to the WMF projects. Our goal is to share the sum of all knowledge with every human being, and right now, HTTPS means cutting out more than a few of them, so we need to determine a solution. We're not standing still, but it's not a simple problem with a simple answer, and it will take time. Further, Ops in general, and Faidon in particular, routinely report issues upstream. Our recent bug reports or patches to Varnish and Ceph are two examples that easily come to mind. Faidon was (rightly) attempting to restore service first - we have a lot on our plates, and I assure you that if a specific bug had been identified, we'd report it - as we have for many other tools we use. We all want the same things, and we're all on the same team here. Let's please stick to the issues at hand, and presume that we're all working in good faith to resolve these issues. Thank you. --Ken. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
