On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Brion Vibber <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Risker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Just for the record, anyone at administrator level or higher has IPBE built
>> into their tools (I believe on all projects), so they can
>> edit/administer/checkuser/etc using Tor.
>>
>> But given that over 95% of anything that comes through an unblocked Tor
>> node onto English Wikipedia is either spam or vandalism, I can't support
>> allowing unbridled Tor editing on at least that project.
>>
>
> Well, we don't allow "unbridled" anything; our administrators litter the IP
> address universe and logged-in users alike with blocks constantly. :)
>
> I would strongly recommend a saner signup/account moderation system for
> "less trusted" network origins such as Tor nodes, though. The key is that
> you have to actually allow creating an account from a Tor node in the first
> place, or you're limited to people who live in "free internet" countries or
> have the money or clout to go abroad to create their accounts...
>
> -- brion
Well yes, such a system would be nice to have, but as discussed
previously on this list, it's a hard problem to solve ("Can we help
Tor users make legitimate edits?",
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/323006 ).
Basically, the problem is that all the existing proposals would at
best provide a substitute for autoblocks, but not for Checkuser.
Also, there is already
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Advice_to_users_using_Tor#Need_an_account_.26_Tor_won.27t_let_you_create_one.3F
(although I don't know how frequently/successfully it's being used
currently)
--
Tilman Bayer
Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications)
Wikimedia Foundation
IRC (Freenode): HaeB
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