I created a bug around killing this hook in favour of more specific
clearer hooks - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58137 -
I don't think we should be tinkering with template variables
personally under any circumstances and if we are making changes we
should be doing them higher up the stack. I would be interested in
your thoughts and inevitable screams about how I'm proposing terrible
things ;-)


On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Jon Robson <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The mobile skin has traditionally used the template variable
> 'language_urls' in SkinTemplate to access the list of alternative
> languages of an article. We are now seeing a lot of friction and bugs
> as we try to move our codebase closer to core.
>
> Question 1:
> What does 'language_urls' mean - is it acceptable for anything other
> than a real language to be in that list?
>
> Over the course of 3 weeks however we have had 3 bugs that have added
> things that are not languages to this list. This has caused various
> noticeable problems with how languages works on mobile.
>
> Question 2:
> Why do developers abuse it in this way - is there not a better more
> semantic way to do this?
>
> Currently we have an issue live on all wikipedias which makes a
> language button show up on all pages - even those without articles.
> x
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Diggers_%26_Dealers&title=Diggers_%26_Dealers
> When the language button at the bottom of the screen is clicked it
> says "This page is available in 1 language: Edit links (Edit
> interlanguage links)
>
> As a result I've now proposed a change for our skin to override this
> [1] so that we can control the list contents and override the effects
> of the hook.
>
> This however is rather frustrating - especially given none of our
> template variables are documented and open to this kind of
> interpretation
>
> Question 3:
> Should we document these template variables? If so where and how?
>
> Thanks for your opinions on this matter.
>
> [1] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/99693
>
> --
> Jon Robson
> http://jonrobson.me.uk
> @rakugojon



-- 
Jon Robson
http://jonrobson.me.uk
@rakugojon

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