Like Quim said, right now we are preparing the Design Document[1] and all
collaboration is welcome.

Best regards,

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Monteirobrena/OPW/Design_Document

Brena Monteiro
+55 27 98109 0123
@monteirobrena <http://twitter.com/monteirobrena>
Reflexões Brenianas <http://monteirobrena.wordpress.com>


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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 19:02:12 +0100
> From: Manuel Schneider 
> <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>
> >
> To: Wikimedia developers 
> <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>
> >
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Commons Video Uploads waiting (Bug
>         #58155)
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> Thanks a lot to Hashar and those who helped!
>
> I am very happy, I just added the videos to the program page of the
> conference and will send a mail to our community in a minute. They will
> be very happy as well!
>
> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiCon_2013/Programm
>
> Regards,
>
>
> /Manuel
>
> Am 12.12.2013 18:36, schrieb Antoine Musso:
> > All files have been uploaded now!  Please contact me if there is any
> > issue :-)
> >
> > Thanks to Ariel Glenn and Nemo bis for the useful commands.
> --
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 11:04:56 -0700
> From: Arthur Richards 
> <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>
> >
> To: Wikimedia developers 
> <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>
> >
> Cc: MediaWiki internationalisation
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> >
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Request for comments: Localisation format
>         changes
> Message-ID:
>         <
> cag5yvhkbtuggbbdvx4jabczh6x_gpy0ab9opxvahe5pkhpp...@mail.gmail.com<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=cag5yvhkbtuggbbdvx4jabczh6x_gpy0ab9opxvahe5pkhpp...@mail.gmail.com>
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> Cool!
>
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) <
> [email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>>
> wrote:
>
> > We have also proposed to discuss this RfC in the upcoming RfC review
> > meeting of 2013-12-18[1]. As far as we know, no time has been set for
> this
> > meeting, yet.
> >
>
> The WMF Engineering calendar shows the RfC review meeting at 2-3pm PST on
> 2013-12-18.
>
> --
> Arthur Richards
> Software Engineer, Mobile
> [[User:Awjrichards]]
> IRC: awjr
> +1-415-839-6885 x6687
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 10:38:41 -0800
> From: Quim Gil 
> <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>
> >
> To: 
> [email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] FWD: [Bug 58236] New: No longer allow
>         gadgets to be turned on by default for all users on Wikimedia sites
> Message-ID: 
> <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On 12/11/2013 11:21 AM, Chad wrote:
> > Sending wiki edits to Gerrit for review? Absolutely not.
> >
> > I'm totally cool with the idea of code review for Gadgets & so forth,
> just
> > not
> > using Gerrit. We considered it for Scribunto (and heck, I wrote half of a
> > proof
> > of concept) but shot it down because the idea totally sucked.
>
> I think I agree with your conclusion, but based on my assumptions. It
> would be useful to know why you think it sucked.
>
> Alright, not on Gerrit. Where?
>
> Even if projects enjoy their freedom to use and modify their gadgets, I
> don't think anybody particularly enjoys having to copy (and eventually
> localize) gadgets found in other projects. Definitely nobody enjoys
> having to fix or re-sync those gadgets years later, when something
> breaks and editors complain in the local village pump.
>
> The idea of global invocation and a central repository is being
> considered for templates [1]. Couldn't this be also an approach for
> gadgets? Still developed directly on top of MediaWiki, with or without
> mechanisms like flaggedrevs, but at least better coordinated and watched
> in a reference site. Then projects would be free to rely on those
> "upstream" gadgets directly, or to create their own forks, that could be
> still documented as such and be hosted in the central repository.
>
> Many times the copy of gadgets across projects involves localization of
> strings that are hardcoded, an extra obstacle for anybody willing to
> re-sync gadgets. Separation of code and strings for proper localization
> would be an addition that all non-English projects would welcome as
> well, allowing automatic resync of the code without translation blockers.
>
> In theory, mediawiki.org could be not only the central repository for
> extensions, but also for templates, gadgets, and bots. With a central
> catalog of software, quality assurance and user feedback could be better
> articulated. Wikimedia projects would benefit just as much as any
> MediaWiki instance out there, without stealing any freedom from them.
>
>
> [1] Bug 39610 - Scribunto should support global module invocations (
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39610
>
> --
> Quim Gil
> Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 20:46:18 +0200
> From: "Amir E. Aharoni" 
> <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>
> >
> To: Wikimedia developers 
> <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>
> >
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] FWD: [Bug 58236] New: No longer allow
>         gadgets to be turned on by default for all users on Wikimedia sites
> Message-ID:
>         <CACtNa8t_K=_ZHzsU+gnakXAvsM59LvuiCiPRs=
> [email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>
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> 2013/12/12 Quim Gil 
> <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>
> >
>
> > On 12/11/2013 11:21 AM, Chad wrote:
> > > Sending wiki edits to Gerrit for review? Absolutely not.
> > >
> > > I'm totally cool with the idea of code review for Gadgets & so forth,
> > just
> > > not
> > > using Gerrit. We considered it for Scribunto (and heck, I wrote half
> of a
> > > proof
> > > of concept) but shot it down because the idea totally sucked.
> >
> > I think I agree with your conclusion, but based on my assumptions. It
> > would be useful to know why you think it sucked.
> >
> > Alright, not on Gerrit. Where?
> >
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gadgets_2.0 ?
>
> --
> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
> http://aharoni.wordpress.com
> ‪“We're living in pieces,
> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 00:40:24 +0530
> From: Amanpreet Singh 
> <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>
> >
> To: 
> [email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>
> Subject: [Wikitech-l] Bug Fixing: #21481
> Message-ID:
>         <CAG1s+wpA6mhJn7DkhrG31h-5Y=mLdRjhNHC=
> [email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=esn%[email protected]>
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi, I am new to wikimedia,
>
> I want to start bug fixing for wikimedia so I have started from this
> annoying little bug
>
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21481
>
> Can somebody guide me from where to start and search for fixing this bug,
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 11:57:36 -0800
> From: Quim Gil 
> <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>
> >
> To: 
> [email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>,
> Heather Walls
>         
> <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>
> >
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Homepage Redesign
> Message-ID: 
> <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Hi Brena!
>
> We have already discussed in person (remotely) but here goes a public
> reply as well.
>
> On 12/02/2013 11:47 AM, Brena Monteiro wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I'm selected to participate of OPW and I will work at MediaWiki Homepage
> > Redesign project in which Quim and Heather are my mentors.
>
> Yes!
>
> To anybody interested: the goal is to have a proposal to replace the
> current mediawiki.org homepage by March 10 (end of Brena's OPW
> internship). Ideally this proposal will consist on a wiki page that can
> just be copied and pasted.
>
> The steps to get there are described at
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Monteirobrena/OPW#Deliverables
>
> Your feedback is welcome. We also want to identify reviewers willing to
> pay special attention to this project, contributing feedback and helping
> to reach decisions. If you are interested, please step in.
>
> > My first activity is identify the main problems at current homepage. I'm
> > watching the page: "Requests for comment/MediaWiki.org Main Page tweaks"
> > [1] and I would like to emphasise that all collaboration is welcome.
>
> After a chat yesterday between Brena, Heather and myself, we agreed that
> the next step is to agree on a design document.
>
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Project_Design_Review_Process#Design_Document
>
> We need to deal with one wiki page only (an important wiki page, but not
> as complex as the user interface of a full application), but still this
> document will be important to define what we want to do, and why.
>
> Then mockups. Then wiki implementation. Trying to sign off each phase
> reaching community consensus.
>
>
> For those willing to get involved now, at
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Monteirobrena/OPW#Design_document
>
> I just created topics to discuss the renaming of
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Monteirobrena/OPW and set up its
> right scope...
>
> ... and also the actions to close officially
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/MediaWiki.org_Main_Page_tweaks
> after integrating the relevant details to the design document.
>
> Most of the communication will happen around those wiki pages. Brena
> will use this list for announcements and wider requests for feedback.
> You can also find us on #mediawiki IRC.
>
> --
> Quim Gil
> Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 15:08:40 -0500
> From: Nikolas Everett 
> <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>
> >
> To: Wikimedia developers 
> <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>
> >
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] OAuth currently broken on wikis with
>         CirrusSearch
> Message-ID:
>         <
> cap+xbbxmanmt0fqfjaaslklzbuknloeiqfozfguchb0hzp7...@mail.gmail.com<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=cap%[email protected]>
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Nikolas Everett 
> <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>
> >wrote:
>
> > Note that the wikis that say they were deployed on December 11th but do
> > not have a strike through them have Cirrus running, but their indexes are
> > still being built.  I believe OAuth will be broken on those wikis as
> well.
> >
> > This requires two fixes to actually fix, both of which are in review
> state
> > pending approval, another test on beta, and eventual deployment.  We
> should
> > have them out sometime in the next few hours.
> >
>
> I've just verified the fix in production.  Please let me know if any of you
> are still seeing the error.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nik
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 17:08:18 -0800
> From: Terry Chay 
> <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>
> >
> To: "(All) WMF Staff" 
> <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>>,
>     Wikimedia
>         developers 
> <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>>,
>    wmfsf
>         
> <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>
> >
> Cc: 
> [email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>
> Subject: [Wikitech-l] Announcement: Kunal Mehta joins Wikimedia as
>         Features        Contractor
> Message-ID: 
> <[email protected]<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&[email protected]>
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> It’s with great pleasure that I’m announcing that Kunal Mehta[1] has
> joined the Wikimedia Foundation as contractor in Features Engineering.
>
> Before joining us (and currently), Kunal is a student in college,
> switching from computer science to business administration for reasons that
> I’m sure warrant more discussion.
>
> Kunal is currently a Wikipedia admin got involved working on the projects
> 8 years ago. He also helps writing and maintaining bots (legoktm <3’s
> pywikibot) and working on the nether regions of the volunteer developer
> community as part of the Volunteer Response Team, which he currently
> continues to do[2]. I met him at Wikimania through a Wikidata scholarship
> because apparently we were too cheap to spring for his ticket.
>
> Kunal will be working with the Core Features Team since MassMessage[3] and
> Echo[4] have overlapping concerns, and Flow[5] can use more development
> support now that it is out. When he isn’t doing that you’ll see him around
> adding this and that to core or the bots. :-)
>
> Kunal lives and goes to school in San Jose. Most importantly, he’s
> unlocked level 2 in Naan Sense on FourSquare[6]. From his username on the
> projects, I’d also bet he must like Lego Mindstorms[7].
>
> For the record, Kunal, I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.
>
> As you have guessed from my usual tardiness and my drive to finish my
> announcements before the calendar year, his first official day was actually
> October 28th (Only two months ago? Not bad, not bad at all).
>
> Please join me in a belated welcome of Kunal Mehta to the Wikimedia
> Foundation.
>
> Take care,
> Terry
>
> [1]: [[User:legoktm]]
> [2]: https://github.com/legoktm
> [3]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MassMessage
> [4]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo_(Notifications)
> [5]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Flow_Portal
>
> [6]: https://foursquare.com/legoktm/badge/51296de6e4b096ae4b48fb8e?ref=tw
> [7]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_Mindstorms_NXT
>
> terry chay  최태리
> Director of Features Engineering
> Wikimedia Foundation
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> sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment.”
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