I realized I should be clear that the "rebooted apps" I mention are "the
future Wikipedia mobile app"s mentioned earlier in the thread. Sorry if any
confusion.

-Adam


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Adam Baso <[email protected]> wrote:

> +mobile-l
>
> Greetings. Rupert, an update!
>
> The rebooted Android (Android 2.3+) and iOS (iOS 6+) apps will have
> Wikipedia Zero flourishes built into them, making it possible for the user
> to know whether the app access is free of data usage charges. The rebooted
> apps are tentatively slated for store submission at the end of the month.
> The flourishes will hinge on each operator's zero-rating of HTTPS.
>
> Likewise, HTTPS contributory features are about to be introduced on the
> Wikipedia Zero mobile web experience as well for operators that zero-rate
> HTTPS.
>
> WMF is starting the work with partner operators to add support for
> zero-rating of HTTPS. There will be, at least, technical hurdles
> (networking equipment architecture varies) in this transition, but it's
> underway! Indeed, we have some carriers that have noted support for HTTPS
> zero-rating already.
>
> I'm very much grateful to Brion, Yuvi, and Monte for their assistance
> while I added code to the Android and iOS platforms, and am happy to get to
> work with them more while putting final touches in place this month. Props
> to Faidon, Mark, and Brandon in Ops Engineering as well on helping us
> overcome some rather non-trivial hurdles in order to retain good
> performance and maintainability while adding HTTPS support.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Brion Vibber <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Adam Baso <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Rupert, I saw your question regarding Wikipedia Zero. Wikipedia Zero is
>> > currently targeted for the mobile web, but I'll take this question back
>> to
>> > the business team as to whether we'd be able to support zero-rating of
>> apps
>> > traffic at some point in the future, at least in locales where moderate
>> > bandwidth is available.
>> >
>>
>> I think that once the zero-rating is switched to support HTTPS by using
>> IP-based instead of Deep Packet Inspection-based HTTP sniffing, ISP
>> partners wouldn't actually be able to distinguish between mobile web and
>> mobile apps content unless we actively choose to make them use separate
>> IPs
>> and domain names.
>>
>> Especially if, as we think we're going to, the future Wikipedia mobile app
>> will consist mostly of native code widgets and modules that plug into the
>> web site embedded in a web control... it'll be loading mostly the same web
>> pages from the same servers, but running a different mix of JavaScript.
>>
>> -- brion
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