On Friday, April 11, 2014, Erwin Dokter <er...@darcoury.nl> wrote: > First, I like to aplologize to anyone who I may have come over too > passionate at some times. Frustration is known to get the better of me, > even though I should control that. (I also quit smoking.)
Much harder to quit than to find a perfect font stack that pleases everyone. :) Thanks for all your work on this Erwin. > > Not sure where a new font stack should be discussed, so I'm just throwing > it in here. Also, note I propose this for Latin wikis only. > > Asuming we want the 'Helvetca' look for the body font: > > font-family: "Nimbus Sans L", "Helvetica Neue", Arial, Helvetica, > sans-serif; > > Breakdown: > > Nimbus Sans L - for Linux. This is the defacto helv font on Linux systems > which result in an look similair to Mac/Windows. Windows will not match > this font, as the Windows versions of the Nimbus font packages have > different font family names (ie. 'NimbusSanL' instead of 'Nimbus Sans L'). This is the part I want to confirm and test. I want to be 100% sure that we are not gonna run in to the same ClearType rendering issues. (I have a Windows 7 laptop at my disposal that I can test with, as well as XP virtual machines.) > > Helvetica Neue - for Mac. Like Nimbus, this should not match fonts on > Windows (or Linux for that matter), as those copies for Windows have > differen font family names (like 'Helvetica Neue LT Com 55 Roman'). > > Arial - For Windows. Positioned after Nimbus Sans and Helvetica Neue, so > Mac and Linux do not match Arial, but positioned before Helvetica to > prevent matching an inferiour Helvetica font that may be installed on some > Windows machines. > > Helvetica - Generic Helvetica fallback for any system not matching any of > the previous fonts. Putting this after Arial will avoid any Windows users getting a bad version of Helvetica rendered on their machines. > > I'd like to test this locally on the English Wikipedia, and I am quit > confident this makes everyone happy because 1) every OS should end up using > a native font, and 2) it "promotes" a free font at the beginning of the > stack (not a high priority in my book though). Why don't we test this on Beta Labs and Mediawiki.org first instead of using enwiki as a guinea pig? We can make you a sysop there. > > Next up I may think about the headers font stack; While Georgia is a good > serif; I detest its use of text figures. Times and Times New Roman are worse overall. ;) > > Regards, > -- > Erwin Dokter > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
