On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Jon Robson <[email protected]> wrote:
> So bot tasks are sometimes performed from user accounts that don't belong > to bots... o_O why?! > No, some of bots tasks needs to be seen and reviewed by others, for example there are bots that do task per user request in a page (like an automated vending machine that people can go to a page and request things and bots do it automatically), or automated reverts (that are being made by clue bot NG) or other things that people exampled before in this discussion > > (forgive my naivety I come into this conversation as an outside with no > prior knowledge of how this stuff works) > On 20 May 2014 14:09, "Amir Ladsgroup" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Jon Robson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I'm confused. Why wouldn't you just mark a user account as being a bot > > and > > > simply determine bot edits from username alone? > > > > > > Any other mechanism seems prone to abuse or being inaccurate... > > > > > People gave several examples of bot tasks that needs to be seen in RC and > > they weren't abuse > > > > > > > On 20 May 2014 07:36, "Amir Ladsgroup" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Thank you legoktm for exampling, > > > > Another case that happened in Persian Wikipedia, is creating > > > bot-generated > > > > articles by user request this task is too contervisal to be marked as > > bot > > > > and we didn't mark it but other edits of my bot is marked as bot > > > > > > > > Best > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Legoktm < > [email protected] > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/19/14, 6:39 PM, Dan Garry wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> On 19 May 2014 19:36, Amir Ladsgroup <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> As a bot operator I think API parameter about flagging bot or not > > is > > > > >>> necessary > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Sure, but as I'm not a bot operator, can you explain why and > what > > > you > > > > >> use > > > > >> this for, to help me understand? :-) > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > If the edits should show up in users watchlists/recentchanges for > > > humans > > > > > to look at. An example would be ClueBot NG on enwp which doesn't > flag > > > > it's > > > > > edits with the bot flag so humans can review them. > > > > > > > > > > Another case where this recently came up is in MassMessage (bug > > 65180). > > > > > Some edits like those to user talk pages should be marked as a bot > > > since > > > > > the user will receive a notification regardless, but ones that are > > made > > > > to > > > > > Project (or other) namespaces, should not be flagged as bot so > users > > > will > > > > > see them in their watchlists. > > > > > > > > > > -- Legoktm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Amir > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Amir > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > -- Amir _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
