> > * User talk pages. Do we need multithread tree discussions in our user talk > pages? No, we don't. > > * Regular talk pages. In most cases a section gets 2-5 replies at most. The
I think you mean on average. There are outliers here, and they aren't that uncommon. That said i agree that in general user talk page discussions are simple, and the whose talk do i respond at is a big issue there. That said, i still hate user talk pages that use lqt. Maybe flow will convert me one day into a believer, but it hasn't yet. > benefit of a simple entry point for newcomers and junior editors clearly > surpasses the potential inconvenience for some vets, especially if our > priority is to be welcoming and open to diversity of people and opinions. Diversity and all that jazz is great. But that is a means to an end, not an end in itself. The point of a talk page in not inherently to be welcoming. Its not a party or a space primarily for socialization. The point is to come to conclusions on how to make a better article. Now diversity of opinion is important to that, but i think its important to separate ends and means. If the increase in welcomingness makes them less suited to their actual purpose, that would be bad. I think an apt comparison would be to a conference. Being welcoming is important, but if that's all you are, its not really a conference. > > * Forums open to new / junior editors like > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk . If you notice the > number of replies per thread, you will see that almost always they keep > themselves under 10 posts, so I don't envision major problems if we move > those to Flow as well. Yes. Lqt has proven itself here to be useful. > > * Hardcore forums for insiders. I wonder if there is any using LQT > nowadays, the ones that come to mind are based on pure Wikitext, and in > fact they are not even in a *Talk namespace. Therefore, even if Flow would > be powering 100% of the talk pages in Wikimedia wikis, it would be still a > decision of these forums to decide whether they want to stay with Wikitext > or use Flow. > > --bawolff _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
