it may surprise you but there are other languages than python and in
these, things like this aren't that simple...

On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Alex Monk <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've fiddled around with this a bit:
>
> On my Ubuntu system, I simply got a library: sudo pip install
> socketio-client
> Then made this Python script:
>
> ---
> from socketIO_client import SocketIO, BaseNamespace
> class RecentChangeNamespace(BaseNamespace):
> def on_connect(self):
> self.emit('subscribe', ['enwiki'])
> def on_change(self, data):
> print(data)
>
> socketIO = SocketIO('rcstream.wmflabs.org') # This host seems to be sending
> the same example entries at the moment, obviously we should get an actual
> RC stream from it or a production host later
> socketIO.define(RecentChangeNamespace, '/rc')
> socketIO.wait()
> ---
> And it prints entries to console like this (Python just prints out objects
> in a way that kind of looks like JSON):
> {u'comment': u'', u'wiki': u'enwiki', u'type': 0, u'title': u'Main Page',
> u'timestamp': 1398993841, u'server_script_path': u'/w', u'namespace': 0,
> u'server_url': u'http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org', u'length': {u'new':
> 585, u'old': 580}, u'user': u'Alice', u'patrolled': True, u'bot': False,
> u'id': 9, u'minor': True, u'revision': {u'new': 9, u'old': 8}}
>
> It's so much nicer. Sorry Petr, I think this is much more suitable than the
> mess that is connecting to IRC and parsing everything. I definitely want to
> see this replace the IRC feed entirely (with the obvious reasonably long
> deprecation period).
>
>
> Alex
>
>
> On 5 May 2014 10:29, Petr Bena <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Given the current specifications I can only support this change as
>> long as current IRC feed is preserved as IRC is IMHO, as much as evil
>> it looks, more suitable for this than WebSockets.
>>
>> I am not saying that IRC is suitable for this and I know that people
>> really wanted to get rid of it or replace it with something better,
>> but I just can't see how is this better.
>>
>> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Daniel Kinzler <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > Am 05.05.2014 07:20, schrieb Jeremy Baron:
>> >> On May 4, 2014 10:24 PM, "Ori Livneh" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> an implementation for a recent changes
>> >>> stream broadcast via socket.io, an abstraction layer over WebSockets
>> that
>> >>> also provides long polling as a fallback for older browsers.
>> >
>> > [...]
>> >
>> >> How could this work overlap with adding pubsubhubbub support to existing
>> >> web RC feeds? (i.e. atom/rss. or for that matter even individual page
>> >> history feeds or related changes feeds)
>> >>
>> >> The only pubsubhubbub bugs I see atm are
>> >> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=38970%2C30245
>> >
>> > There is a Pubsubhubbub implementation in the pipeline, see
>> > <https://git.wikimedia.org/summary/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FPubSubHubbub>.
>> It's
>> > pretty simple and painless. We plan to have this deployed experimentally
>> for
>> > wikidata soon, but there is no reason not to roll it out globally.
>> >
>> > This implementation uses the job queue - which in production means
>> redis, but
>> > it's pretty generic.
>> >
>> > As to an RC *stream*: Pubsubhubbub is not really suitable for this,
>> since it
>> > requires the subscriber to run a public web server. It's really a
>> > server-to-server protocol. I'm not too sure about web sockets for this
>> either,
>> > because the intended recipient is usually not a web browser. But if it
>> works,
>> > I'd be happy anyway, the UDP+IRC solution sucks.
>> >
>> > Some years ago, I started to implement an XMPP based RC stream, see
>> > <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:XMLRC>. Have a look and steal
>> some
>> > ideas :)
>> >
>> > -- daniel
>> >
>> >
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