Alright, let's find a compromise: we will make sure that any Architecture
task fitting in Bugzilla will have a Bugzilla report. We will continue
using Phabricator for all the rest. Let's talk again when we have a
Phabricator instance in production (in a few weeks, according to plans).

For instance,"Schedule wednesday rfc meeting for european team next week
Aug 13" http://fab.wmflabs.org/T528 could be closed as a perfectly INVALID
report in Bugzilla, yet it has a function in our little project in
Phabricator. If Labs goes down, we will manage.

PS: It is a fact that we have "real work" projects in fab.wmflabs.org
today, and thanks to this we are learning and testing a lot. It would have
been crazy to go from "Test Foo Blah" tasks to Phabricator Day 1 without
this phase of experimentation and compromises in between.


On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Chad <[email protected]> wrote:

> It's unfortunate that it's being used for prod data. I never intended that
> when it was set up.
>
> So yeah +1 to waiting until we have a real prod service.
>
> -Chad
> On Aug 8, 2014 3:07 PM, "Quim Gil" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Collateral summary: a transition to Phabricator has started, and this
> > project is just taking advantage of it.
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Legoktm <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Can we please not use Phabricator until it's an actual production
> > > service? We still don't have IRC notifications, mailing lists,
> > > documentation, etc. Most people don't even look at it because, well,
> > > it's a test instance, not an actual thing people should be using.
> > >
> >
> > Phabricator is supposed to become an actual production service within a
> few
> > weeks. We are using it here for tracking tasks more than tracking bugs,
> and
> > the workboard is a useful interface to see at a glance which RfCs are
> ready
> > to be reviewed.
> >
> > Lack of IRC notifications is not a dealbreaker in this project, since we
> > didn't have it either in the purely MediaWiki-base process we had before.
> > Mailing lists... will be used in the same way. Documentation... what do
> you
> > need? Please check and ask at
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help
> >
> > Most people probably don't need to look at this project. For the
> architects
> > and the few other people that have to follow it, I'm sure that
> > notifications will work just fine.
> >
> > I'm also reminded of Mark's comments in [1]: If a URL has "wmflabs.org"
> > > in it...don't put anything, ANYTHING, important there.
> > >
> >
> > For what is worth, some projects are posting important information in
> this
> > Phabricator instance, and its content is being backed up periodically.
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