Top posting to add context: this is for the initiative to get a version of Magnus' wonderful http://wdq.wmflabs.org/ running in production at WMF.
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Nikolas Everett <never...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > tl/dr: The technology we started building against (Titan) is probably > dead. We're reopening the investigation for a backing technology. > > Yesterday DataStax <http://www.datastax.com/> announced > <http://www.datastax.com/2015/02/datastax-acquires-aurelius-the-experts-behind-titandb> > that they'd acquired > <http://www.datastax.com/2015/02/datastax-acquires-aurelius-the-experts-behind-titandb> > ThinkAurelius <http://thinkaurelius.com/>, the company for whom almost > all the Titan developers work. The ZDNet article > <http://www.zdnet.com/article/datastax-snaps-up-aurelius-and-its-titan-team-to-build-new-graph-database/> > made it pretty clear that they are killing the project > >> "We're not going to do an integration. The play here is we'll take >> everything that's been done on Titan as inspiration, and maybe some of the >> Titan project will make it into DSE Graph," DataStax engineering VP Martin >> Van Ryswyk said. > > > While its certainly possible that someone from the community will come out > of the woodwork and continue Titan its now lost almost all of its top > developers. It looks like there is some secret succession discussions > going on but I'm not holding out hope that anything will come of it. This > pretty much blows this project's schedule of having a hardware request by > the end of the month and a publicly released beta at the end of March. > > Anyway, we're reopening the investigation to pick a new backend. We're > including more options than we had before as its become clear that open > source graph databases is a bit of a wild west space. But there are people > waiting on this. The developer summit made that clear. So we're not going > to do the month long dive into each choice like we did last time. I'm not > 100% sure exactly what we'll do but I can assure you we'll be careful. > > I know you might want to talk about other options - you may as well stuff > them on > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Indexing#Other_possible_candidates > and we'll get to them. As always, you can check out our workboard > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/37/query/DwEBx9K4vaHo/> > to see what we're actually working on. > > Titan is still in the running assuming it gets active maintainers. > OrientDB, which we evaluated last round, is still in there too. So too are > GraphX and Neo4j. And ArangoDB. And Magnus' WDQ. We'd get much more > involved in maintenance, I think. And writing a TinkerPop implementation > Elasticsearch. That's not a serious contender. It'd get geo support for > free but its really just a low bar to compare all the other options to. > > Thanks, > > Nik <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88550> > And, too add more context, we chose not to just immediately deploy Magnus' WDQ because we didn't want to maintain a graph database ourselves. You should now be able to appreciate the irony of the situation more thoroughly. Its healthy to find humor where you can. Nik _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
