I say working in node is sure better than not working at all. :D

Keep it up!

-- brion

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Daniel Friesen <[email protected]>
wrote:

> ((Jump to the -- TL;DR -- if you just want to answer my question))
>
> Hey guys, right now managing extensions is a complete mess for those of
> us with a wiki running a dozens of extensions on a VPC.
> Even if you use git to make things easier. You still need to batch
> fetch/pull multiple git repos. And then some extensions don't work via
> git, instead you install them using composer.
> ((And don't say use mediawiki/extensions.git, that should conflict with
> composer extensions, doesn't help when an extension uses something like
> version tags, and appears to have the same issues with bulk updating a
> few extensions))
>
> I convinced my boss to let me spend some time (when I have no client
> projects to work on) building a tool to make managing extensions easier
> for CLI users.
>
> Some notes on the idea here:
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Dantman/Code_Ideas&diff=1387600&oldid=1378044
>
> Please note that this is NOT meant to be the new way we manage
> extensions forever, this is a hack meant to be used as a workaround to
> deal with current reality until the grand future when we're supposed to
> have a complete extension management system built into core with its own
> web interface.
>
> -- TL;DR --
>
> Now, my question.
> Do you guys want me to build the local tool in PHP as a maintenance
> script or in node.js?
>
> Actually perhaps I should instead ask "Are you guys fine if I build this
> in node.js?" because I have a feeling this will be hell to develop if I
> have to write it in PHP.
>
> PHP Pros:
> - We could bundle this with MediaWiki core if people like it.
> - You don't need to install Node.js (though it's not 'that' hard).
>
> PHP Cons:
> - Every time I've tried using PHP proc functions I've had to spend
> endless time debugging. And this tool requires dozens of proc calls.
> - The tool is going to be difficult to access until at least the next
> MediaWiki version, since it won't be bundled.
> -- It may end up useless for a bunch of people right now when it's
> supposed to help.
> -- It may also end up locked down so only users with more recent
> installations of MediaWiki may use it (
>
> Node.js Pros:
> - Once you have node, getting the tool will be as trivial as `[sudo] npm
> install -g mediawiki-...something...`.
> - The tool will be available for and should work on any MediaWiki
> version you can get a current extension to work on, not just future
> releases.
> - Executing git and composer from node to download things is trivial.
> -- I not only expect it to be easy, I'm already doing it. The server
> code is Node.js and is already happily chugging away fetching all our
> gerrit based git repos, doing multiple in parallel.
> - I could make parts of the tool interactive and much more user friendly.
>
> --
> ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://danielfriesen.name/]
>
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