Il 18/03/2015 05:08, Danny Horn ha scritto:
Yes, the plan is for editing posts to go everywhere. We want to go a little
bit extra slow with deploying that feature just to make sure that the
pieces we've put in place actually work properly. So it's rolling out to
Mediawiki.org next week, and then English and Russian WP the week after.
(The people at Russian WP that we've been talking to said that they weren't
even interested in test pages until we had editing posts, because Russian
is hardcore.)
Having the ability to edit other people's posts can be very useful, but
there's also a strong cultural tradition that says that we basically don't
do it, except under certain circumstances. People using Flow won't
necessarily come to it with that same tradition, so we want to see that the
feature set encourages the useful editing, and doesn't encourage people to
mess with the wording or intent of someone else's post. Once we've seen it
in action for a little while, it'll go live to all the other languages.
Of course it should be used carefully and for minor changes only. I
agree with T91086 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91086>.
And I'm glad to hear that this thread has come close to almost inspiring
optimism. That's what I'm here for.
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:00 PM, MZMcBride <[email protected]> wrote:
Ricordisamoa wrote:
Il 17/03/2015 23:29, Danny Horn ha scritto:
-- The ability to edit other people's posts will be out on Mediawiki by
the end of next week. We’ve made a few interface changes to support
that. Posts that have been edited by someone that isn’t the original
poster now say “Edited by Username 3 minutes ago”, so that it’s easy
for everyone to see what’s happened. When someone edits an existing
post, we fixed the diff pages so that you can browse between previous
and next changes. [1]
By "Mediawiki", do you mean www.mediawiki.org?
I would like to stress the importance of such ability for *all* wikis.
On Wikimedia, unlike most other sites, nothing is 'owned' by someone,
and protection is only a precautionary measure. Flow is supposed to work
with this model.
Agreed. The ability of anyone to revert bad edits also acts a major
anti-abuse feature. As has been pointed out many times, there's a very
real spam concern if only the author and admins can edit posts.
-- Make the links to threads look nicer -- Yeah, this is annoying. It’s
not in our top five list of annoyances at the moment, but we’ll keep
checking off annoying items. Nicer links will get its turn. [5]
[5] Less ugly topic page links: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T59154
Erik B. says on that task that the deployment of ContentHandler should
help. This is excellent news.
Thanks for the detailed and timely reply.
My thanks as well! This e-mail really helped alleviate some of my concerns
with Flow's development. I have too much experience with Flow's
predecessor LiquidThreads to say that I'm optimistic, but I'm definitely
less concerned now about Flow's future than I was when I started the day.
MZMcBride
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