On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Ryan Lane <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Risker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The dogfooding has been happening for a while on WMF's own office-wiki. > We > > haven't heard any results about that. Is the system being used more than > > the wikitext system? (i.e., are there more "talk page" comments now than > > there were before?) Have users expressed satisfaction/dissatisfaction > with > > the system? Have they been surveyed? Do they break down into groups > > (e.g., engineering loves it, grants hates it, etc...)? I hear some > stories > > (including stories that suggest some groups of staff have pretty much > > abandoned talk pages on office-wiki and are now reverting to emails > > instead) but without any documentary evidence or analysis it's > unreasonable > > to think that it is either a net positive OR a net negative. > > > > > From what I remember officewiki is pretty unused by most of the staff, so > I'd doubt you'd get much usable feedback there. > Actually, https://office.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&limit=250 currently goes back about 90 hours (i.e. more than 60 edits/day), with more than 30 different users active in that time. And like Jon, I'm surprised to hear about "stories" where staff are "reverting to emails". Admittedly, WMF employees do indeed sometimes discuss topics per email instead exclusively using wiki talk pages, but in my recollection this happened even before the existence of Flow. And after all, this very thread is happening on Wikitech-l instead of mediawiki.org ;) > As someone who's used mediawiki for 10+ years I can say that *anything* is > better than wikitext for discussion. I have a certain bias towards LQT and > such, but that's because I actually want to use discussion pages for > discussion and wikitext is basically the worst user experience in the world > in this regard. Just to throw this in here as one data point: "39% of talk page threads contain wrong indentations <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newsletter/2014/November#39.25_of_talk_page_threads_contain_wrong_indentations> " -- Tilman Bayer Senior Analyst Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
