side note: How come php 5.3.3 support broken accidentally? Isn't Jenkins
script validates compatibility with the min php? :)

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Krinkle <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > On 20 Jul 2015, at 22:42, Legoktm <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > OTOH, if we never bump our version requirements, there's less incentive
> > for hosting providers to upgrade their PHP. [1] has some interesting
> > arguments regarding this.
> >
> > [1] http://blog.ircmaxell.com/2014/12/on-php-version-requirements.html
> >
> >
>
> Indeed. Providers that don't already provide newer PHP options, will
> certainly
> start doing so when major software requires it.
>
>
> > On 21 Jul 2015, at 07:12, bawolff <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> https://wikiapiary.com/w/index.php?title=Special:SearchByProperty&limit=500&offset=0&property=Has+PHP+Version&value=5.3.3
> > is also something to keep in mind
> >
>
>
> Yes, but also keep in mind that many of those wikis likely run in hosting
> environments that already support newer PHP versions. But customers won't
> change their settings until they have to. And providers can't change
> customers proactively without risking site breakage or damaging customer
> relations.
>
> I had the same with my third-party wikis. Until recently they ran on PHP
> 5.3. Then at some point I realised my provider had a simple "Select PHP
> Version" page in the control panel. I switched them all to PHP 5.6 that day
> and also enabled opcache. Site performance improved greatly.
>
>
> > On 19 Jul 2015, at 07:15, Bryan Davis <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Some WMF production hosts are still on PHP 5.3.10 so as Tim pointed
> > out last spring [0] we shouldn't drop 5.3 support until after the
> > entirety of the WMF server fleet are all switched over to HHVM or at
> > least a newer version of PHP5. [..]
> >
> > [0]: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/436441#436441
> >
>
> Yeah, in case of Wikimedia master is near-immediate production so
> let's post-pone this until right after Wikimedia's migration is complete.
>
> Third parties can stick to using the LTS or the current stable version
> as needed for upto several years more without issue.
>
> -- Krinkle
>
>
>
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