On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 3:39 AM, Ricordisamoa <[email protected]>
wrote:

> You are right that there are some redundancies in information
>> representation (because of having to serve multiple needs), but as far as I
>> know, it is mostly around image attributes. If there is anything else
>> specific (beyond image attributes) that is bothering you, can you flag that?
>>
>
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/MediaWiki_DOM_spec#Transclusion_content
> All template parameters are in data-mw but not parsed. Parameters ending
> up in the 'final' wikitext are parsed separately.


Parsed template parameters require the `addHTMLTemplateParameters`
parameter to Parsoid.  We are actively discussing how to expose this sort
of functionality via the Parsoid API.  But it's not strictly required: you
can just recursively invoke Parsoid on the template arguments.  I'll try to
whip up an example of this soon.


> I see huge demand for alternative wikignome-style editors. The more
>>> Parsoid's DOM is predictable, concise and documented, the more users you
>>> get.
>>>
>>
>> I think Parsoid's DOM is predictable :-) but, can you say more about what
>> prompted you to say that?
>>
>
> For example, to find images I have to search elements where typeof is one
> of mw:Image, mw:Image/Thumb, mw:Image/Frame, mw:Image/Frameless, then see
> if it's a figure or a span, and expect either a <figcaption> or data-mw
> accordingly. Add that the img tag's parent can be <a> or <span>...
> Instead, this is what I'd expect a proper structure to look like:
>


The CSS selector `figure, [typeof~="mw:Image"]` will capture all of the
image elements.  Similarly, `figure > *:last-child, [typeof~="mw:Image"] >
*:last-child` will always capture the caption element (more or less).  The
structure is actually pretty locked down.  (And my mwparserfromhell clone
has some image-related helpers to make it even easier.)

Part of the problem here is that media-related markup in wikitext is quite
fiendishly complicated, with lots of interlocking parts.  The presence of
one sort of option can completely change the meaning of others.  The
Parsoid DOM is designed to try to simplify this complexity, rather than
directly mirror the wikitext craziness.
  --scott

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(http://cscott.net)
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