> I think the point of the approval process is that I don't install OAuth
app key in the application like Vicuña (https://github.com/yarl/vicuna).

This is the only argument I have heard in favor of keeping the review
queue, and yet, I don't see how such an issue would be caught in review of
a consumer application.

Is there a clearly good reason that we need to continue this review
process?  If not, I find it very frustrating that we're slowing things down
so much because of imagined boogie-men.  The idea of
permission-just-in-case-someone-does-a-bad-thing is opposed to the wiki
model of keeping things as open as possible and addressing problems as they
happen.  In the meantime, we're encouraging bad behavior by making the
OAuth system such a pain to work with.  I understand that you're doing this
in your free time csteipp, but the pain of delays is still inflicted on
tool developers all the same.  Maybe it is inappropriate that such a key
infrastructure (and official requirement for Labs-based tools) is left up
to volunteer time of someone who is apparently overworked.

   1. How long is this transition process supposed to take?
   2. Should I start making my argument to the Stewards now?
   3. Is there a public conversation about this transition that I can
   participate in?

-Aaron

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Chris Steipp <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 11:23 PM, Brian Wolff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On 10/27/15, Ricordisamoa <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > ALL of my OAuth applications expired without anyone noticing. Whom am I
> > > supposed to lobby to get one approved?
> > >
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> > I suppose these people:
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AListUsers&username=&group=oauthadmin&limit=50
>
>
> Yes, bug one of us for now. I talked with the Stewards about taking on the
> process last week, and we're in the process of making that transition.
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