I really do not remember where did I see this. I you are sure I'm wrong,
then I'm wrong and that's it.
Igal


2017-07-17 21:39 GMT+03:00 Nuria Ruiz <[email protected]>:

> >It was explained as one that changes it a lot. Maybe there was a wrong
> explanation.
>
> Sorry, not sure what you mean, can you link to any documentation we can
> maybe clarify? As the measure two metrics "Unique Devices" and "Pageviews"
> is completely different.
>
> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 11:05 AM, יגאל חיטרון <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > It was explained as one that changes it a lot. Maybe there was a wrong
> > explanation.
> > Igal
> >
> > 2017-07-17 20:52 GMT+03:00 Nuria Ruiz <[email protected]>:
> >
> > > >I'm talking about research "Unique devices".
> > > That had no effect on pageviews. I think you are probably mixing two
> > > different projects.
> > >
> > >
> > > As I mentioned pageview counting has not changed for more than 2 years.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > > Nuria
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 9:43 AM, יגאל חיטרון <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi. I do not remember when did this happen - this april or two years
> > ago.
> > > > I'm talking about research "Unique devices".
> > > > Igal
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2017-07-17 19:37 GMT+03:00 Nuria Ruiz <[email protected]>:
> > > >
> > > > > > do not remember the exact date, but a couple of months ago the
> way
> > > for
> > > > > > pageviews counting was changed, using cookies, affecting the
> mobile
> > > web
> > > > > > views. This can be the cause.
> > > > > > Igal (User IKhitron)
> > > > >
> > > > > mmmm... not sure what you are referring to, can you be more
> specific?
> > > We
> > > > > have not changed the way we measure pageviews for 2 years
> > > > >
> > > > > There are improvements/fixes continously done to the system and
> those
> > > get
> > > > > documented here:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Page_view#Change_log
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > FYI, we have opened a ticket for this issue:
> > > > > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170845
> > > > >
> > > > > Without looking at it in detail there are many possible causes:
> > removal
> > > > of
> > > > > "bad" pageviews (like requests for banners) or drop of traffic due
> to
> > > > > having less bots.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:38 PM, Strainu <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > 2017-07-15 14:34 GMT+03:00 יגאל חיטרון <[email protected]>:
> > > > > > > Hello, Strainu.
> > > > > > > 1. Try in place of "all-access" use different platforms. You'll
> > > see,
> > > > > as I
> > > > > > > expected reading your letter, that the effect you recognized
> > > appears
> > > > in
> > > > > > > "mobile-web" mostly.
> > > > > > > 2. I do not remember the exact date, but a couple of months ago
> > the
> > > > way
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > pageviews counting was changed, using cookies, affecting the
> > mobile
> > > > web
> > > > > > > views. This can be the cause.
> > > > > > > Igal (User IKhitron)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you Igal, that must be the reason, I'll look for the change
> > > > > > announcement just to understand what it means exactly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Strainu
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Jul 15, 2017 13:47, "Strainu" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Hi,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Starting from an unrelated discussion on meta, I noticed a
> > > > significant
> > > > > > >> drop in main page views for several wikis starting from April
> > this
> > > > > > >> year. Is there anything we (or Google) did at that time to
> > justify
> > > > > > >> this drop?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> ro.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=ro.
> > > > > > >> wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2016-
> > > > > > >> 01&end=2017-06&pages=Pagina_principal%C4%83
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> hu.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=hu.
> > > > > > >> wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2016-
> > > > > > >> 01&end=2017-06&pages=Kezd%C5%91lap
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> fr.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=fr.
> > > > > > >> wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2016-
> > > > > > >> 01&end=2017-06&pages=Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> de.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=de.
> > > > > > >> wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2016-
> > > > > > >> 01&end=2017-06&pages=Wikipedia:Hauptseite
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> en.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.
> > > > > > >> wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2016-
> > > > > > >> 01&end=2017-06&pages=Main_Page
> > > > > > >> (slightly different pattern)
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> The same cannot be said for other projects, for instance
> > uk.wiki:
> > > > > > >> http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=uk.
> > > > > > wikipedia.org&platform=all-
> > > > > > >> access&agent=user&start=2016-01&end=2017-06&pages=%D0%93%
> > > > > > >> D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%
> > > > > > >> 80%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B0
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > > > >>    Strainu
> > > > > > >>
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