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Please stay on topic. This thread is about the ORES FAQ. If you would like to debate about Which Wiki Is The Right Wiki for SIGDOCS, please start a new thread. I'm sure Sarah will be happy to discuss the initiative and its history in that thread. On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Gergo Tisza <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 4:20 PM, Aaron Halfaker <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I thought Wikitech makes sense for a wikimedia-specific initiative. >> > > A documentation SIG is not really Wikimedia-specific though (or did you > mean "ORES documentation SIG" specifically?). > Also, most Wikimedia-specific technology initiatives are on mw.org (all > the Audiences projects, for example). > > Wikitech was originally a place for ops documentation. (It has its own > infrastructure and deploy cadence, so it's unaffected by most failures; > also it's small enough for static HTML dumps. When the site is down and you > are scrambling to bring it back, it's a good thing when your operations > docs aren't also down.) Later Labs needed a management interface which got > tucked onto Wikitech (this was one of those "do everything inside > MediaWiki" eras), so it made sense to put all Labs-related documentation on > wikitech as well. Most other things are on mediawiki.org. There were > various proposals over the years to change that (move wikitech content to > mediawiki.org, move all WMF stuff to wikitech, move all WMF stuff to > meta, move all non-MediaWiki-documentation stuff to a new developer wiki > etc.) but none of them gained much momentum. > > Due to being managed differently, wikitech is not a great work environment > IMO. There is no unified login, no page translation support, no structured > discussion support, no pageview metrics, the registration process is tied > to creating LDAP and shell accounts... There are plans to improve this > eventually [1], but between that and the audience differences, I'd stay > away for now. > > Btw you are probably aware of the past discussion on a documentation SIG, > but just in case: [2] > > > [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123425 > [2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156301 > > _______________________________________________ > AI mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ai > > _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
