Also.... There's no reason an app or website needs to have a password, to
have a password-less authentication, they would just have a single-factor
authentication on "something you have".

In this setup, if you were to enable 2-factor authentication, you would
then provide "something you know" (i.e. a password).

I've noticed a growing trend to get rid of passwords in the industry
because, it's not a very good user experience and it's not a very good
security practice either And honestly, it's not a terrible idea, I don't
have to remember a password to get into my home or car, I just have to have
a key.

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 8:58 AM, David Barratt <[email protected]>
wrote:

> 2 Factor Authentication can be broken up like this:
> - Something you have
> - Something you know
>
> The "something you have" can be anything in your possession, this could be
> hard things like a U2F
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_2nd_Factor> device, a
> smartphone, or soft things like a phone number or an email address.
>
> The "something you know" is something that can be stored inside your head,
> which is almost always a password or pin number of some kind.
>
> So since the mobile app (or any mobile app for that matter) still requires
> something you have and something you know, it is still 2 factors.
>
> See more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-factor_authentication
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 6:10 AM, Josephine Lim <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> Happy to hear that you like the new features! :)
>>
>> Re: 2FA logins, that is an interesting question! However, it is not one
>> that is unique to our app, for if you log in to your 2FA-enabled Wikimedia
>> account on your mobile phone's browser, both factors can also be on the
>> same mobile device. ;) Perhaps someone more well-versed in
>> security/authentication than I am could be better placed to answer that
>> question.
>>
>> Point noted re: the CCs, thanks!
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Josephine
>>
>> On 2 May 2018 at 06:10, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Message: 3
>> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 13:10:15 -0700
>> > From: Daniel Zahn <[email protected]>
>> > To: Wikimedia developers <[email protected]>
>> > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Commons app - version 2.7 release
>> > Message-ID:
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>> > > - New "Nearby places that need pictures" UI with direct uploads (and
>> > associated category suggestions) -
>> >
>> > Woohoo. That's exactly what i was always missing and was so great about
>> the
>> > old WikiLovesMonuments app.
>> >
>> > Thank you very much!
>> >
>> > >  Enabled two-factor authentication login
>> >
>> > Also very nice, just wondering what the second factor is on mobile,
>> since
>> > usually that's a mobile app as well. Does that still make it 2 factors?
>> >
>> > P.S. Crossposting to multiple mailing lists at once with CC: can be
>> tricky,
>> > maybe better send a separate mail to each.
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