Hi Petr,

Thank you for thinking about improvements to 2FA, the lack of session
persistence makes me want to buy a paper encyclopedia.

Another issue to add to your list is that a lost 2FA device (plus lost
scratch codes) requires admin help or someone with DB access, because the
self-serve option asks for a 2FA code in order to disable.  Most industry
implementations allow a 2FA reset via primary email account as well as
scratch codes.  There are many bugs about this, and I can't tell if the
design is a feature or bug.  Here's an interesting suggestion for how to
fix: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180896

Regards,
Adam

On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 9:48 AM Petr Bena <[email protected]> wrote:

> Oh and I totally forgot to include link to phab task:
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T201784
>
> On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Petr Bena <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I would like to do some major changes to two factor auth. I am cross
> > posting this on phabricator and the mailing list to give it some more
> > attention and to start some proper discussion before anyone starts
> > working on this:
> >
> > Right now there are only two options for two factor authentication:
> >
> > * Don't use two-factor authentication (insecure)
> > * Use two factor authentication (annoying as hell)
> >
> > With two factor authentication it doesn't seem to be possible to make
> > session persistent and it really is extremely annoying to look for
> > your mobile phone, open the app and fill in the code everytime you
> > want to do some simple wiki action. I am very lazy and even found
> > myself to rather decide not to do a minor change (be it fix of typo
> > correction etc. in article on English Wikipedia etc) rather than going
> > through the hassle of using the google authenticator.
> >
> > I think it would be really cool to have an option (or maybe even more
> > of them?) that would help to specify when two factor auth is really
> > desired, so that for example users could decide that for simple
> > actions like wiki editing normal login would be sufficient, but for
> > changes like:
> >
> > * Change of password
> > * Change of (some) preferences
> > * Admin actions (block, delete etc.)
> >
> > P.S. Unfortunately I no longer have so much free time to track every
> > single thread in this mailing list, so maybe this is a duplicate of
> > some older idea by someone else, if that's the case, please merge the
> > phab task with whatever the other identical proposal is.
> >
> > Thank you
>
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