This can be done with the special page "AboutTopic" with some additional logic. It has been discussed at a few projects, but the necessary logic isn't available. That means the redlink must be created with the q-id, and there is no well-defined process on how to clean it up afterwards.
At nnwiki the article about Erich Mühsam ( https://nn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_M%C3%BChsam) has a link in the infobox to Oranienburg (https://nn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spesial:AboutTopic/Q14808) which is an article placeholder. The necessary logic to avoid use of the q-id would be to use some kind of "item disambiguation"-page instead of going straight to the "about topic"-page. Still note that in a lot of cases the item can be automatically disambiguated by simple cluster analysis. On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 3:40 PM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Wikitech-l < [email protected]> wrote: > > All that red makes the page look bad, and i would like to point out the > abuse factor here, all those red links start edit wars, > > and should be put there if any by people, > > The creation of the wikidata page also creats a problem, because it does > not establis a lable which should be mandatory > > and in english, > in the save proses. > > and this problem * > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Labels_and_descriptions#List_of_items_without_labels_and/or_descriptions > > > > >Tuesday, September 25, 2018 2:58 AM -05:00 from Sergey Leschina < > [email protected]>: > > > >I want to draw your attention to the problem from the other side. On the > newly created page, which can be opened by the red link, there is no > binding to the Wikidata. This means that after the creation, the page will > not automatically be linked to the Wikidata. And if the project has > templates that can use information from the Wikidata, they will not fully > work until the page will be saved at least once and linked to an item. I > already suggested to add the parameter for this: > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178249 > > > >If something like this will be implemented, then it will be possible to > make a template for the red links (with Lua and TemplateStyles) that will > be connected to the Wikidata. Although I agree that it is better to have a > syntax that will allow to make links without such difficulties. > >пн, 24 сент. 2018 г. в 20:50, Maarten Dammers < [email protected] >: > >>Hi everyone, > >> > >>According to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLuM4E6IE5U : "Semantic > >>annotation is the process of attaching additional information to various > >>concepts (e.g. people, things, places, organizations etc) in a given > >>text or any other content. Unlike classic text annotations for reader's > >>reference, semantic annotations are used by machines to refer to." > >>(more at > >>https://ontotext.com/knowledgehub/fundamentals/semantic-annotation/ ) > >> > >>On Wikipedia a red link is a link to an article that hasn't been created > >>(yet) in that language. Often another language does have an article > >>about the subject or at least we have a Wikidata item about the subject. > >>Take for example > >>https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Friedrich_Ris . It has over > >>250 incoming links, but the person doesn't have an article in Dutch. We > >>have a Wikidata item with links to 7 Wikipedia's at > >>https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q116510 , but no way to relate > >>https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Friedrich_Ris with > >>https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q116510 . > >> > >>Wouldn't it be nice to be able to make a connection between the red link > >>on Wikipedia and the Wikidata item? > >> > >>Let's assume we have this list somewhere. We would be able to offer all > >>sorts of nice features to our users like: > >>* Hover of the link to get a hovercard in your favorite backup language > >>* Generate an article placeholder for the user with basic information in > >>the local language > >>* Pre-populate the translate extension so you can translate the article > >>from another language > >>(probably plenty of other good uses) > >> > >>Where to store this link? I'm not sure about that. On some Wikipedia's > >>people have tested with local templates around the red links. That's not > >>structured data, clutters up the Wikitext, it doesn't scale and the > >>local communities generally don't seem to like the approach. That's not > >>the way to go. Maybe a better option would be to create a new property > >>on Wikidata to store the name of the future article. Something like > >>Q116510: Pxxx -> (nl)"Friedrich Ris". Would be easiest because the > >>infrastructure is there and you can just build tools on top of it, but > >>I'm afraid this will cause a lot of noise on items. A couple of > >>suggestions wouldn't be a problem, but what is keeping people from > >>adding the suggestion in 100 languages? Or maybe restrict the usage that > >>a Wikipedia must have at least 1 (or n) incoming links before people are > >>allowed to add it? > >>We could create a new projects on the Wikimedia Cloud to store the > >>links, but that would be quite the extra time investment setting up > >>everything. > >> > >>What do you think? > >> > >>Maarten > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Wikidata mailing list > >>[email protected] > >>https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > > > > > >-- > >Sergey Leschina > >_______________________________________________ > >Wikidata mailing list > >[email protected] > >https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
