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On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 10:41 AM Physikerwelt <w...@physikerwelt.de> wrote: > Dear all, > > a minor update on hyperlinks in formulae~[1]: > The demo on the beta cluster works quite well. > There is just one minor problem~[2], which seems to a problem within > wikibase, which will hopefully be resolved as wikibase improves > without any changes to the Math extension codebase. > > As a next step, we will enable the feature by default~[3]. This will > have no impact as the qid-attribute is not set on any formulae in > production wikis currently. > > While we were hoping that the change to the popup extension that André > contributed would be merged, we will need to plan more time to discuss > this change with the maintainer of the popups extension. However, a > first step was successful, and we could identify who is responsible > for the popups extension~[4]. > > Any feedback or suggestions are highly appreciated. > > All the best > Moritz (physikerwelt) > > [1]: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208758 > [2]: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T229939 > [3]: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239356 > [4]: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239357#5738927 > > http://moritzschubotz.de | +49 1578 047 1397 > > On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 8:00 PM Physikerwelt <w...@physikerwelt.de> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I was happy to be invited by the Wikimedia Foundation to the Wikimedia > > Technical Conference 2019 in Atlanta~[1]. At this conference, I > represented > > the technical needs of the mathematical community~[2]. Apart from a lot > of > > great achievements for the whole Wikimedia movement with regard to the > five > > focus areas of the conference~[3], there were also several math-specific > > achievements. In this message, I will focus on those aspects: > > > > 1) Bold italic capital greek symbols are now possible. Please join me in > > thanking Petr Kadlec (aka. Mormegil) for his perennial effort to make > this > > possible~[4]. > > > > 2) We will - very soon - have a demo on the Wikimedia beta cluster > enabling > > links from formulae to a dedicated special page that displays > definitions and > > explanations regarding mathematical objects of interest, i.e., > identifiers, > > symbols, terms. Thank you André Greiner-Petter for the implementation of > this > > feature~[5]. > > > > 3) In a session on 'Integrating contributions from other teams or > volunteers` > > organized by Christoph Jauera (aka. Fisch). We derived definitive action > items > > on improving the participation opportunities to the Math on wikis~[6]. > > > > 4) We discussed the future of Math rendering with Petr Pchelko (WMF) > which > > will simplify the setup of mathoid and eventually get rid of fallback > images > > while maintaining support for MathML disabled browsers~[7]. > > > > I am grateful to the Wikimedia Foundation and the organizers of the > event, in > > particular, Rachel and Greg to get the chance to enjoy this > well-organized > > conference with amazing people and a wonderful program. > > > > All the best > > Moritz (physikerwelt) > > > > http://moritzschubotz.de | +49 1578 047 1397 > > > > > > [1]:https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Technical_Conference/2019 > > [2]:https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_Math > > [3]:https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238406 > > [4]:https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T218295 > > [5]:https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208758 > > [6]:https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T234662#5660102 > > [7]:https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T237516 > > > > Some more details on item 4, from my personal, biased perspective: > > > > I started working on the Math extension in 2012 and implemented the > > main functionality > > of the new rendering method which is based on MathJax rather > > than on LaTeX in 2013 at the Wikimedia Foundations Headquarter in San > > Francisco. At that time the vision was to replace the monolithic PHP > based > > framework MediaWiki, with a large number of small dynamic JavaScript > modules. > > The idea was that those modules are developed as isomorphic > platform-independent > > components using interfaces of a management framework that takes > > care of caching and efficient execution. The long-term goal was that the > > functionality could be executed either on the client or on the server > and that > > the management layer would figure out the best execution strategy based > on the > > current prerequisites. In the first step, a framework based on HTTP > requests was > > set up to handle services such as math rendering. Mathoid the math > rendering > > service was one of the first instances of this service template. From the > > retro perspective that might have been too early. Neither a convenient > type and > > schema description language existed, nor a way to specify rich metadata > on the > > execution characteristics existed. However, a fine-grained I/O schema > seems > > desirable for implementing robust and durable services. Moreover, rich > > metadata on the execution characteristics such as runtime, memory > footprint, > > I/O data distributions seem required to allow an execution management > layer > > for effective execution strategy planning. After the services went into > > production schema improvement was difficult and never happened. > > > > Today, it seems pretty certain that MediaWiki will be PHP based for the > > foreseeable future. Given this situation, we did now plan to improve Math > > support by making the best use of the build-in MediaWiki core > functionality. We > > will rely on the MediaWiki core caching functionality to continue > providing an > > instant user perception of math rendering and continue using a stateless > > node-based math rendering service. Our hope is that by incorporating the > 'new` > > MathJax 3 rendering mode 'common HTML` also MathML disabled browsers > will be > > able to display high-quality mathematical formulae without to rely on > > disturbing images. We plan to enable this rendering mode as opt-in in a > first > > step and thereafter have a community vote if the new imageless rendering > mode > > should become the default. If that won't work, we will need to > > evaluate inline SVG > > images that would require either SVG or JavaScript support on the client. > > Given the situation that only a very small number of visitors use > browsers > > that neither support SVG images nor allow JavaScript this second > alternative > > seems to an ethical option as well. > > > > I will update the associated ticket phabricator ticket~[7] as soon as we > have > > derived a more detailed plan for the implementation. > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
