Hey! On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 9:56 AM Count Count <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi! > > Thanks for providing another communication tool. > > Some questions: > > - Is there a reason why we are not using Wikimedia account SSO for the > chat? > Due to the privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud, we are not allowed to use SUL or LDAP of Wikimedia or Wikitech respectively, but I have been looking into improving the user integration because it has been asked in multiple places. You can follow it in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261631 Mattermost doesn't have a native support for Wikimedia OAuth but it has support for GitLab OAuth and funnily enough, since everything is customizable in settings, I assume it should workTM, if yes, it would look weird but it would work. If not, we have to file a bug in upstream (mattermost) and ask for a general OAuth support. - The Terms link leads directly to the Tech Code of Conduct. Shouldn't > it link to https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use/en > instead? > After all terms are usually more than just a Code of Conduct. > I don't have many preferences in that regard, I have one choice for terms of use and can't decide between this or that. > - The linked privacy policy > <https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Chat/Privacy_Policy> > is > a bit scary. It states that there is no expectation of privacy as my > chats > could be published at any time and that the administrators might have > access to my username/password combination, which should not at all be > necessary. Is that really the intent here? > As said before, this is the standard privacy policy that we must use in order to comply with the Cloud terms of use https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikitech:Cloud_Services_Terms_of_use Not that I won't publish anything private, also the mattermost itself protects private data (like passwords) by hashing them. > > > Best regards, > > Count Count > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 2:00 AM Amir Sarabadani <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hello, > > Due to the current situation, there are more and more collaborations > > happening online instead. and now you can see Wikimedia-related > discussion > > groups in Slack, Discord, Telegram, Facebook, and many more. Besides > being > > scattered and inaccessible to people who don't have accounts in those > > platforms (for privacy reasons for example), these platforms use > > proprietary and closed-source software, are outside Wikimedia > > infrastructure and some harvest our personal data for profit. > > > > IRC on freenode is a good alternative but it lacks basic functionalities > of > > a modern chat platform. So we created Wikimedia Chat, a mattermost > instance > > in Wikimedia Cloud. Compared to IRC, you have: > > * Ability to scrollback and read messages when you were offline > > * Push notification and email notification > > * You don't need to get a cloak to hide your IP from others > > * Proper support for sharing media > > * Two factor authentication > > * A proper mobile app support > > * Ability to add custom emojis (yes, it's extremely important) > > * Profile pictures > > * Ability to ping everyone with @here > > * much much more. > > > > You can use Wikimedia Chat by going to https://chat.wmcloud.org, anyone > > can > > make an account. This is part of Wikimedia Social suite [1], the oher > > similar project is "Wikimedia Meet". [2] > > > > Some notes: > > * This is done in my volunteer capacity and has been maintained by a > group > > of volunteers. If you're willing to join the team (either technical or > > enforcing CoC, kicking out spammers, other daily work), drop me a > message. > > * Privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud applies: https://w.wiki/aQW > > * As a result, all messages older than 90 days get automatically deleted. > > * As a Wikimedia Cloud project, all of discussions, private and public > are > > covered by Code of conduct in technical spaces: https://w.wiki/AK$ > > > > Hope that would be useful for you, if you encounter any technical issues, > > file a bug in the phabricator. > > > > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Social_Suite > > [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet > > > > Best > > -- > > Amir (he/him) > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > -- Amir (he/him) _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
