I was bound to forget something with such a long email and I should have
included Adam Shorland as a main contributor to MediaWiki-Docker!

On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 11:39 PM Jeena Huneidi <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> TL;DR:
> New mailing list for local dev discussion ->
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/local-dev
> New wiki page for updates ->
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Release_Engineering_Team/Local_Dev_Updates
>
> This year’s developer satisfaction survey[0] revealed that many people
> felt there wasn’t enough communication around local dev improvement
> efforts. In fact, some people didn’t even know that there were any. The
> following is a brief history of those efforts and an update on what we have
> in progress, as well as some ways for us to communicate and keep informed
> about the local development space.
>
> A little under 2 years ago, I took on the task of developing a
> container-based development environment for mediawiki and services,
> partially since our production deployments are moving in that direction. As
> someone who had never done development on Mediawiki and its surrounding
> extensions and services, and whose job was not to do that development, this
> was (and is) a challenge. Here’s a quick outline of what I, with other
> contributors, did since then:
>
>    1. Coded and analyzed the 2019 developer satisfaction survey[1] and
>    did one on one interviews with developers to understand the problems faced
>    by developers.
>       - This research provided insights into areas in and out of the
>       scope of local development that probably deserve more attention
>    2. Created a prototype in minikube[2]
>    - Brennen Bearnes created the dev-images repo to support this work
>       - Demonstrated at the Prague Hackathon in 2019
>       - Did not generate much interest
>       - Confirmed suspicions that kubernetes is not an ideal tool for
>       developing
>    3. Led local-dev work group meetings
>    4. Presented findings and ideas at Tech Conf in 2019[3] with Brennen
>    - Together with session attendees, decided to create
>       mediawiki-docker[4], a lightweight dev solution for pure mediawiki
>       developers.
>    - Had another session to attempt to figure out what kinds of services,
>       etc, could be grouped together for more complex development 
> environments,
>       but didn’t explain this in a way that session attendees understood, and
>       they probably left frustrated
>    5. Continued work on mediawiki-docker, and a cli[5] to simplify
>    repetitive docker commands
>       - Kosta Harlan, along with Brennen, Mukunda Modell, and James
>       Forrester headed this up
>       - Zeljko Fillipin (and a bunch of other people!) worked on
>       documentation of setting up a number of extensions to use with
>       mediawiki-docker, which indicates some adoption of mediawiki-docker
>
> You can collaborate with us or track our progress by visiting our
> phabricator work board[6]. Tasks welcome :)
>
> As a preview, some open tasks are:
>
>    - Command-line wrapper for interacting with core's docker-compose
>    stack - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246111
>       - Tasks under this task to make the CLI more useful
>
>
>    - Set up distribution of MediaWiki-Docker CLI -
>    https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250241
>    - Accomplishing this means devs can use cli commands to interact with
>       mediawiki-docker without cloning the cli repo and building the project
>
>
>    - Set up CI for mediawiki-docker -
>    https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248779
>    - So we can avoid regressions
>
> We’re still exploring the best way to manage docker-compose files for
> different extensions and services for a more complex development
> environment.
>
> To address the concerns about lack of communication in a more consistent
> manner, I’d like to introduce a long-overdue way for us to have discussion
> on local dev topics through a new local-dev mailing list:
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/local-dev. I’ve also created
> this wiki page for updates about local-dev:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Release_Engineering_Team/Local_Dev_Updates.
> Since I’ve recently created this page, there is not much to see there at
> the moment.
>
> If you've made it this far, thanks for reading! I hope these changes will
> help improve communication and collaboration with everyone who wants to
> participate.
>
> [0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Satisfaction_Survey/2020
> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Satisfaction_Survey/2019
> [2] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/releng/local-charts
> [3]
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1ZuQGkzXylvJnPSmP4epKjsS7TghXvK99AwXTHdNng4c/edit?usp=sharing,
>
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/15a5yxOyPGlOADIQ6D4MmxM7ucvkec2ySpeRv-6p85o4/edit?usp=sharing
> [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki-Docker
> [5] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/mediawiki/tools/cli
> [6] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/mediawiki-docker/
>
> --
> Jeena Huneidi
> Software Engineer, Release Engineering
> Wikimedia Foundation
>


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Jeena Huneidi
Software Engineer, Release Engineering
Wikimedia Foundation
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