Hi Johanna,

since 2019 the Math extension is prepared to offer popups for mathemaical
formulae as well.
Therefore I think it would be good to design the settings dialog in a way
that different kinds of popups can be selected. I could imagine that in the
future more extensions would like to offer popups.


https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208758

All the best
Moritz

On Wed, 17 Mar 2021, 10:16 Johanna Strodt, <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hello Amir, thanks for your questions. Having discussed this back and
> forth in the team, our original plan was to deploy to a few wikis first to
> find out how many users actually don't want a shared setting. But thanks
> to, among other things, the feedback we received over the last
> announcement, we have now come to the conclusion that separate settings
> make more sense. That also means, Reference Previews won't go out of beta
> just yet, but hopefully next month.
>
> @all: If you like the idea of having Reference Previews with a separate
> setting as a default feature on your wiki, please let me know. Having a few
> more wikis for this first step would be great.
>
> Am Di., 16. März 2021 um 12:58 Uhr schrieb Amir E. Aharoni <
> [email protected]>:
>
>> Why did you decide to do it like this despite requests from multiple
>> people to keep them separated?
>>
>> What are the advantages of unifying them, and why do you think they
>> outweigh the disadvantages?
>>
>> What kind of user reaction can make you change your mind—user complaints,
>> a certain rate of disabling the preference, something else?
>>
>> בתאריך יום ה׳, 11 במרץ 2021, 18:51, מאת Johanna Strodt ‏<
>> [email protected]>:
>>
>>> Hello Mathieu,
>>>
>>> we have received feedback in both directions, both to have a shared
>>> setting and to have separate ones. We would like to start with a shared
>>> setting to see how users actually react.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Johanna
>>>
>>> Am Mi., 3. März 2021 um 23:47 Uhr schrieb Mathieu Lovato Stumpf Guntz <
>>> [email protected]>:
>>>
>>>> What about grouping them, with specific hidden options by default?
>>>>
>>>> That is if you opt out the group, both are disabled. If you enable the
>>>> group, you gain the possibility to unfold subcases.
>>>>
>>>> Also if at some point the list become really too long, you might
>>>> consider an option search filter. Actually, given that we have already more
>>>> options on several tabs than what can be displayed on a confortable desktop
>>>> screen, I think this length limit was already crossed a long time ago.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Le 03/03/2021 à 12:47, Johanna Strodt a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Amir!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *What can people do if they want to see Reference Previews, but not
>>>> Page Previews? *
>>>> Currently, nothing. The plan is to offer both features in combination.
>>>> As for this shared setting, we received different feedback: Some wanted a
>>>> combined setting to keep the number of user settings small, others wanted a
>>>> separate setting. For now, we have decided to go with a shared setting.
>>>>
>>>> *If an editor currently has the Reference Previews beta feature enabled
>>>> and the Page Previews (Popups) feature disabled, will they get both enabled
>>>> or both disabled after the deployment of the combined feature?*
>>>> The Page Previews user preferences will be respected. In a scenario
>>>> where a user has Page Previews disabled, Reference Previews will also be
>>>> disabled.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Johanna
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am Mi., 3. März 2021 um 11:31 Uhr schrieb Amir E. Aharoni <
>>>> [email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ‫בתאריך יום ד׳, 3 במרץ 2021 ב-11:44 מאת ‪Johanna Strodt‬‏ <‪
>>>>> [email protected]‬‏>:‬
>>>>>
>>>>>> Reference Previews will be combined with Page Previews[2], a feature
>>>>>> showing previews for linked articles. Both perform essentially the same
>>>>>> function: previewing content before deciding to dig deeper, and easily
>>>>>> providing more information while reading. Because of their similarities 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> design and behavior, both Page Previews and Reference Previews will be
>>>>>> controlled by a single user setting. This means, all users who currently
>>>>>> have Page Previews activated, will also get Reference Previews. Also, all
>>>>>> readers, anonymous contributors and new users will see Reference Previews
>>>>>> per default if they haven’t disabled Page Previews.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What can people do if they want to see Reference Previews, but not
>>>>> Page Previews?
>>>>>
>>>>> If an editor currently has the Reference Previews beta feature enabled
>>>>> and the Page Previews (Popups) feature disabled, will they get both 
>>>>> enabled
>>>>> or both disabled after the deployment of the combined feature?
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