Thanks Pine. Yes, we are now in touch - we had missed this step. On Thu, Feb 12, 2026 at 9:20 AM Pine W via Wikitech-l < [email protected]> wrote:
> Hello, > > Thanks to Lukasz & the SRE team for the date change and softening the > plan for what will happen at the target date. > > I would suggest that the applicable engineering team(s) consult the Movement > Communications Team > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation/Communications/Movement_Communications> > regarding the communications plan. > > In the bigger picture, I'm concerned that detailed thought about > communications may have been missed before making an announcement that > amounts to a "breaking change" in the sense of potentially impacting other > teams' and volunteers' plans. I would suggest that, if WMF doesn't already > have a documented guideline or standard of practice for when to develop a > formal communications plan & when to consult the Movement Comms team, that > such documentation be created. Optionally, the document could be written as > a learning pattern <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Learning_patterns>. > > Thanks, > Pine🌲 > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2026 at 7:37 AM Travis Briggs via Wikitech-l < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks Lukasz! An April 30th deadline sounds much more reasonable. I >> would also suggest being flexible to extend it further based on needs >> expressed by the community in response to posting notices wider. >> >> As mentioned, I posted on the Phabricator task ( >> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415237) with a suggested notice to >> send to non-technical editors: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Etherpad#Etherpad_wipe/deletion/clean_slate_proposal >> >> At this point, anyone who is interested in helping work on the wording of >> that notice should feel free. I would also welcome suggestions on where the >> "canonical" version of the notice should live, though I think the current >> talk page for the Etherpad instance itself isn't too awful. >> >> Additionally, ideas, on specific email lists and wiki pages to notify and >> link to the notice, are very welcome! >> >> Thanks, >> -Travis >> >> On Wed, Feb 11, 2026 at 5:00 AM Lukasz Sobanski via Wikitech-l < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Speaking on behalf of the SRE team that owns Etherpad I wanted to chime >>> in here. >>> >>> The arguments for extending the deadline and broader communication are >>> reasonable. >>> - We can extend the deadline to April 30th, if there are still migration >>> projects in progress at that point then we can revisit the date on a case >>> by case basis. >>> - I will follow up internally to identify the right groups to notify, if >>> you have suggestions please send them directly to me (I already saw a >>> proposed posting on a Village Pump in the related Phabricator task). >>> >>> I also agree that any planned future clean up should be communicated in >>> advance. >>> >>> As for backing up information, after identifying the pads they can be >>> exported in txt or html using appropriate public endpoints: >>> - http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/<pad_title>/export/txt >>> - http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/<pad_title>/export/html >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2026 at 10:57 AM Strainu via Wikitech-l < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Jetlo, >>>> >>>> I want to support the idea expressed by my fellow volunteers that this >>>> decision does not adequately support the community's use-cases. I fully >>>> understand that Etherpad was designed as a temporary collaboration tool, >>>> but: >>>> * it is not only used by the tech community, so such an announcement >>>> *must* go out as widely as possible, especially on the lists dedicated >>>> to conference organizers and wikimedia-l >>>> * *17 days is not enough* heads up for the community to organize and >>>> sort/backup decades of meeting minutes. I believe that for the first >>>> cleanup, *3 months* would a more realistic timeline >>>> * future purges should also have a *predictable schedule and be >>>> announced* at least a month in advance, to allow people to save their >>>> work >>>> >>>> I hope your team will reconsider their decision to cater for the needs >>>> of the wider community. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Strainu >>>> >>>> În mar., 10 feb. 2026 la 14:57, Jelto Wodstrcil via Wikitech-l < >>>> [email protected]> a scris: >>>> >>>>> Hello everyone >>>>> >>>>> If you don't use etherpad, you can ignore this message. >>>>> >>>>> We will *delete all pads after 1st March 2026*! If you need any of >>>>> your pads, please make a local backup. We will not be able to recover the >>>>> data after 1st March. >>>>> >>>>> The pad cleanup helps to reduce the size of the database and the >>>>> footprint on our infrastructure. After the cleanup, etherpad can still be >>>>> used for real-time collaboration but please do not expect long term >>>>> storage. Additional cleanups might happen after that unannounced. >>>>> >>>>> See also https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415237 for >>>>> more information. >>>>> >>>>> Greetings and thank you >>>>> >>>>> Jelto >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikitech-l mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikitech-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikitech-l mailing list -- [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>> >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikitech-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lukasz >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikitech-l mailing list -- [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikitech-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikitech-l mailing list -- [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikitech-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikitech-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ -- Lukasz
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