I strongly disagree with removing wiki text.  Several thousand bots depend on 
it.  Especially Cluebot NG which is a highly sophisticated anti-vandalism bot.  
I rcommend going our current route where the visual editor writes the 
Wikimarkup realtime and vice versa.

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Am Mar 26, 2012 um 11:37 schrieb Trevor Parscal <[email protected]>:

> Given we have pages that contain CSS, JS and JSON in the MediaWiki namespace, 
> this seems more like a good idea for a nice refactoring project than a new 
> idea altogether. Is the way we support these non-wikitext pages indeed a 
> dirty hack atm?
> 
> - Trevor
> 
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Sumana Harihareswara <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> Forwarding this to the wikitext-l list just in case.
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [Wikitech-l] Cutting MediaWiki loose from wikitext
> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:45:51 +0200
> From: Daniel Kinzler <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: Wikimedia developers <[email protected]>
> Organization: Wikimedia Deutschland e.V.
> To: Wikimedia developers <[email protected]>,
> [email protected]
> CC: Lydia Pintscher <[email protected]>, Abraham Taherivand
> <[email protected]>
> 
> Hi all. I have a bold proposal (read: evil plan).
> 
> To put it briefly: I want to remove the assumption that MediaWiki pages
> contain
> always wikitext. Instead, I propose a pluggable handler system for different
> types of content, similar to what we have for file uploads. So, I propose to
> associate a "content model" identifier with each page, and have handlers for
> each model that provide serialization, rendering, an editor, etc.
> 
> The background is that the Wikidata project needs a way to store
> structured data
> (JSON) on wiki pages instead of wikitext. Having a pluggable system
> would solve
> that problem along with several others, like doing away with the special
> cases
> for JS/CSS, the ability to maintain categories etc separate from body text,
> manage Gadgets sanely on a wiki page, or several other things (see the
> link below).
> 
> I have described my plans in more detail on meta:
> 
>  http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/ContentHandler
> 
> A very rough prototype is in a dev branch here:
> 
>  http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/branches/Wikidata/phase3/
> 
> Please let me know what you think (here on the list, preferably, not on
> the talk
> page there, at least for now).
> 
> Note that we *definitely* need this ability for Wikidata. We could do it
> differently, but I think this would be the cleanest solution, and would
> have a
> lot of mid- and long term benefits, even if it's a short term pain. I'm
> presenting my plan here to find out if I'm on the right track, and
> whether it is
> feasible to put this on the road map for 1.20. It would be my (and the
> Wikidata
> team's) priority to implement this and see it through before Wikimania. I'm
> convinced we have the manpower to get it done.
> 
> Cheers,
> Daniel
> 
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