Hi again.

I'm glad to hear that the Berlin Lectures will be uploaded at higher quality
and that Asheesh Loria will be assisting in this years wikimania's Hakcathon
and material development.

As per your questions - I have revisited last year's lectures a couple of
times. I tend to maximize the social aspects of hackathon and review the
technical materials at my leisure and with the attention to detail that they
require.

I reviewed almost all of Wikimania during Jan-March. For examples I
revisited Andrew West's Lecture on ant vandalism where he mentioned using
Amazon Mechanical Turk to create an anti-vandalism corpus. He also described
in verbatim how anti-vandalism robots are designed. This is not mentioned
AFIK in any academic journals - only the results of anti-vandalism are. The
reason why this work was interesting for me was that it applies to the area
of Quality Assessment - where being able to draw the fine line between good
will edits and bad will ones boils down to keeping or loosing new editors.

Another example is review of the materials about gadgets and extensions.
This work comes with a steep learning curve and again the lectures fill the
void created by a lack of hands on training course.

Regarding your questions slides are useful but to a limited degree. They are
supposed to help support a lecture visually and help a good speaker keep his
place in the talk. In the case of the Lua slides - they really help to
structure a tutorial but the lecture has almost all the important details.
About transcripts - these are best if added to the lectures - both to remedy
low quality vocals and to help users with accessibility problems but are not
a high priority for me. I do use them when available. Finally my own
experience with lectures from Google etc is that they combine in their
technical podcasts camtasia type screen captures. These allow the viewers a
glimpse of the instructor's screen. 

Seeing the screen captures - even in slides is next to impossible and so
getting videos with screen captures of this type integrated would be Ideal.
Having slides and transcripts is definitely a productivity booster too.

P.S. regarding the link at:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:OrenBochman/Lessons 

This is part of a pilot to expand the activities of Wikipedia's adoption
program. Currently only the Adoption school and the Lua Module development
contain useful content. The Lua Module has added new info on String
processing. If there is interest in additional courses/lessons please let me
know and they will be added in due course.



-----Original Message-----
From: Sumana Harihareswara [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 10:42 AM
To: Wikitext-l
Cc: Oren Bochman; Asheesh Laroia
Subject: Re: [Wikitext-l] filming the hackathon for experts AND newbies:
Washington, DC, USA July 10-11

Thanks for the heads-up, Oren.  I'll talk with OpenHatch and other WMF folks
about the possible filming of the Wikimania hackathon.  Can you specifically
say what is most valuable about having lectures videotaped and available
online for you?  Would transcripts and slides be sufficient substitutes?

The few Berlin hackathon videos that you see online at
http://vimeo.com/user7709672/videos are provisional and fairly temporary;
professionally edited videos will be up at commons.wikimedia.org by or on
July 9th.

People who want to look at Oren's lessons can find them at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:OrenBochman/Lessons .


--
Sumana Harihareswara
Engineering Community Manager
Wikimedia Foundation


On 06/25/2012 01:31 AM, Oren Bochman wrote:
> Hi 
> 
> I have learned from one of the organizers of Wikimania that they are not
> planning to film the Hackathon sessions. Furthermore, it was suggested
that
> the WMF orgenisers take care of this issue if though consider it a high
> priority! 
> 
> I fear that not putting these materials online will be a major setback for
> the developer community. I, and other refer to these lectures throughout
the
> year. They also contain much information not available online. 
> 
> Also some of the recent coverage from Berlin - is of rather dubious
quality.
> (Not the lecture - the video coverage) I have reviewed the lua lectures
many
> time while I converting them into a MediaWiki Lua tutorial (currently
hosted
> on  meta within the scope of a larger educational project). I can say that
> in this case there is about 5 to 10 times more (MediaWiki) specific
> materials in the lecture than there is online elsewhere but that it
> difficult to understand due to sound issues.
> 
> I hope this matter can be resolved in time for the sake of the numerous
> volunteer developers who will not be able to attend this event.
>  
> Thanks!
> 
> Oren Bochman
> Mediawiki Lead of Search
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sumana
> Harihareswara
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 6:51 AM
> To: [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; MediaWiki announcements and site admin
> list; [email protected]; Wikitext-l;
> [email protected]; [email protected]; (Public)
> People co-organizing OpenHatch+Wikimiedia outreach
> Subject: Re: [Wikitext-l] Upcoming hackathon for experts AND newbies:
> Washington, DC, USA July 10-11
> 
> On 06/19/2012 03:41 AM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
>> This is a reminder that you're invited to the pre-Wikimania hackathon,
>> 10-11 July in Washington, DC, USA:
>>
>> https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hackathon
>>
>> In order to come, you have to register for the Wikimania conference:
>>
>> https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Registration
>>
>> (Unfortunately, the period for requesting scholarships is now over.)
>>
>> At the hackathon, we'll have trainings and projects for novices, and 
>> we welcome creators of all Wikimedia technologies -- MediaWiki, 
>> gadgets, bots, mobile apps, you name it -- to hack on stuff together 
>> and teach each other.
>>
>> Hope to see you!
> 
> Actually, you don't have to register for Wikimania to come to the
hackathon.
> The registration fee is only required for the main conference days;
everyone
> is welcome to come to the hackathon days and unconference for free.  So
tell
> your DC friends to sign up at
> https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hackathon and come!
> 
> --
> Sumana Harihareswara
> Engineering Community Manager
> Wikimedia Foundation
> 
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