Ottava, you are repeating on Wikiversity your old style of argument, even more
seriously tendentious. It's obvious. SBJ explained it to you. He'd love it if
you provided him good ammunition to use in preventing me from being a
custodian, but you've done about the opposite.
I seriously attempted to encourage you to positively contribute. My invitation
to you to take on welcoming, on your Talk page, was serious and sincere. I did
not expect problems. When you made some welcomes that do -- just my opinion! --
interfere with the practical operation of RCP in conjunction with welcoming, I
pointed these out. I did not threaten you.
Instead of taking this up as an ordinary dispute, you escalated immediately to
the Colloquium, thus showing a radical misunderstanding of non-disruptive
dispute resolution process.
In any case, I've responded to your concerns there. If you want to make
comments on that, you can place them on your Talk page and I'll, at least, link
to that from the Colloquium. Be careful, though. If you abuse your Talk page
for uncivil comments, you might get Talk page access yanked. Not by me.
SBJ only blocked you for a week, so you will get another chance. You could
actually get another chance immediately if you'd recognize what you did and
sincerely apologize, showing the new understanding. It's the same as at meta,
the opposition to your unblock there would vanish if you showed a reason to
think it wouldn't just happen all over again.
If you, in a week, continue as you did, you will, as a practical certainty, be
blocked again. And, again, very likely, not by me. I only do that in
emergencies, where there has been prior conflict, and, as bad as it had gotten
when SBJ blocked, I didn't think it had gotten to that level yet.
"Three banned editors to use Wikiversity to disrupt." What disruption? What
"copyright infringing things" exist? You've been asked for specifics, and you
haven't provided any. You are simply tossing made-up mud. Yes, Marshallsumter
was *accused* of "copyright violation." That remains to be seen. Copying of
sentences from published papers is not ordinarily and legally copyright
violation, and it is routinely done in an academic environment, with
attribution, which was the case with much or most of the problem work on
Wikipedia. But it isn't "copyvio" even without attribution, under almost all
circumstances. It might be "plagiarism," a different issue. There may have been
exceptions, and you should know that everyone who is very active can be found
to have made mistakes.
>________________________________
>From: Jeffrey Peters <[email protected]>
>To: Mailing list for Wikiversity <[email protected]>
>Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 9:20 AM
>Subject: Re: [Wikiversity-l] SB Johnny
>
>
>Then how did I "make problems"? By pointing out that Abd was excessively
>blocking people without notifying them, giving warnings, etc? Or that he was
>selectively welcoming people? Or that he encouraged three banned editors to
>use Wikiversity to disrupt, including bringing over copyright infringing
>things?
>
>And what have you done lately? Looking at our contribs, I fixed a lot of the
>problems up. Where were you? You have some nerve trying to justify such an
>outrageously improper block.
>
>
>2011/9/18 Juan de Vojníkov <[email protected]>
>
>Really.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Juandev
>>
>>
>>
>>2011/9/18 Jeffrey Peters <[email protected]>
>>
>>Really? Because Wikis don't allow for blocks to be used that way, and other
>>Wikis want to ban Abd and those he is encouraging to act out. There is more
>>talk to shut down Wikiversity, and if stuff like SB Johnny and Abd aren't
>>dealt with, I will support that effort.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>2011/9/17 Juan de Vojníkov <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>Well,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I think you made problems Ottava.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Juandev
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>2011/9/17 Jeffrey Peters <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>If you haven't noticed, SB Johnny decided to block me today because I
>>>>pointed out dozens upon dozens of mistakes Abd has made - not warning
>>>>people when he blocks them, encouraging editors who are blatantly posting
>>>>things out of scope, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ottava_Rima
>>>>>
>>>>>Everyone can see from my contribs that his actions are clearly out of
>>>>>line. The worst thing is, not only was SB Johnny desysopped for abuse
>>>>>before (and gained it inappropriately), but that most people want to
>>>>>globally ban Abd, who is clearly acting inappropriate.
>>>>>
>>>>>Wtf is happening with Wikiversity?
>>>>>
>>>>>Sincerely,
>>>>>Jeffrey Peters
>>>>>aka Ottava Rima
>>>>>
>
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