When I mentioned refresh power - I was thinking along the lines of the
problem I had -

I bought some '100' rated memory - it was, at that time much cheaper than
'133'
eventually - after lots of problems found out it was really 133 memory but
had been 'down-rated'
presumably due to quality control failures at a 'batch' level

But at 100 it was only getting 3 refresh feeds in the time it would have got
4 at 133

Set my system to a 133 bus speed - and it stopped all those problems

Could be your BIOS set itself to it's own ideas of frequency and speed when
it complained about the CPU.
I've also seen some warnings about systems not conforming to JEDEC settings

Extracts from entry in docs on a MSI board ....

Please confirm and adjust your memory settings in the BIOS accordingly for
better system STABILITY
e.g. Kingston HyperX DDR500 PC4000 operates at 2.65V 3-4-4-8 CL=3
check your manufactures for more details.

It didn't say manufactures what!

Also UPS will deal with over voltage -
But will yours provide smooth, and correct output with undervoltage and bad
frequency feed

And remember PC's can sense an engineer's presence, and thoughts of a 4lb
club hammer and smashed casings and circuitboards - you just have to project
the image strongly

JimB


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Glazier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: Booting from Floppy + Life of AMD CPUs


> Thanks,
> Sounds reasonable to me. <grin>
> I changed the battery first since I buy them 3 at a time, and
> had just "stocked up".
> I have a new Antec case with a 350w PS I was going to try next,
> or at least rob it of the PS...
> I had tried a different PS (and left it in) last summer.
>
> The "talking" BIOS reported the RAM was bad, so I RMAed it.
> The results of several quick tests (swaps) seemed very consistant.
>
> Right after I got back from the UPS place, (in other words, a real
> cold start later), the BIOS said the CPU was bad or not installed
> properly. (I forget the wording at this point.)
>
> It has started and run perfect since then.
> OH NO, I am tempting the computer Gods with a statement like that
>
>             ;-(
>
> Both computers seem to have some sort of thermal problem(s).
> (But, One has eight fans including the two in the PS.)
> It has been a very bad summer for things breaking down...
>
> I'm on surge suppressed power that feeds into a UPS.
>
>                                         Rick Glazier

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