Sorry for the delay in my response to this.   I've been on medical leave
(technically I still am) following surgery last week (Nov 22 in fact!)

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:30:03 -0500, KMF-MIS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>The list seems to have made it into the spamcop database 
><http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=blcheck&ip=209.119.0.21>

No, one of our several primary outbound mail server IP addresses has made it
into automated spamcop database.

>This is not the first time the list has made it into a DNSBL. IIRC the last 
>time was also for sending to spamtrap addresses. Is there a problem with the 
>list that allows spamtrap addresses to get subscribed? 

No, such addresses are subscribed to any list at L-Soft.  However there are
several circumstances where legitmate email sent by any of our servers may
(unbeknownst to us) go to spamtrap addresses.  Since we cannot know in
advance what these spamtrap addresses are, we cannot block/prevent such
legitmate emails from being sent.

For a longer discusssion of the problems see:

<http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind0511&L=EASE-HOME&P=R1076>

and about 30 further following emails in a thread starting here:

<http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind0511&L=EASE-HOME&P=R1908>

The real problem is that Spamcop listing is automatic on any email of any
kind arriving at their spamtrap address, even though L-Soft is caught
between the proverbial rock and hard place.  Without debating the
merits/demerits of Spamcop's approach (which is a subject for SPAM-L and
other similar lists, but not the WIN-HOME list) this fact is poorly
understood by ISP's that blindly use Spamcop's (or any other) RBL services
and think they are "fully protected".  

Any subscriber to this list whose ISP uses Spamcop (and as a result gets
auto-deleted from the list) should complain to their ISP about "false
positive" blockage of legitmate and desired email by blindly using Spamcop's
services without being aware of its limitations or possible gaps in its
level of reliability.  If you are not happy with the service you receive
from your ISP, you should let them know.  Perhaps they will let Spamcop know
and Spamcop may (or may not) provide some alternative.

In any case all list messages for WIN-HOME are available in the WWW archives
at 

  http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/win-home.html 

or via RSS feed at

  http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?RSS&L=WIN-HOME

both of these methods of delivery completely circumvent such email
difficulties.

If anybody has been auto-deleted and not yet been added back to the list,
please let me know at  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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