On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:22:45 -0400, you wrote:

>Hugh Gundersen typed the following on 6/12/2006 1:09 PM:
>> On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:34:09 -0400, you wrote:
>> 
>>> Especially the older Macs their architeture was so closed you
>>> couldn't get most of the hardware that non-Mac pcs had access to
>>> which to some small degree changed with the powerMacs and now with
>>> the MacIntel PCs.
>>> 
>>> With all the news being bandied about the new MacIntel systems the
>>> let you run Mac OS X and Windows XP dual-boot system that still
>>> hasn't convinced me to switch from the PC. Especially those new
>>> Apple comericials that try an obvious attempt to convince users to
>>> switch by dumbing down and insulting the user's intelligence by
>>> portraying the PC as a man in a suit and the Mac as a young man in
>>> a t-shirt.
>>> 
>>> Why should I switch from the PC. What I have experience with
>>> working with for over 35 years since 1980 when the first IBM PC jr
>>> came out in August of that year and I've never touched a Mac since
>>> High School becuase they didn't have the huge software library of
>>> what Windows PCs had back then,
>> 
>> Excuse me ---- Wasn't Bill gates in College then or was this soon
>> after he left?  Windows wasn't about then in any shape or form except
>> for an apple in Bill's eye.  Windows emerged as a fledgling sometime
>> during 83 or 84 I belive and then it was total crap but interesting
>> enough to play with.  Windows came up with 3.0, 3.1 & 3.11 for
>> networking and lasted a long time until NT cane in from the cold and
>> then 95 made it's debut followed swiftly by 98.  But WINDOWS PCs in
>> 1980????????????????
>
>
>If you dleted "Windows", you;d have to agree with him, no? :-)

Yes - somewhat but he did accentuate Windows and Linux
> 
>>> they weren't as open as PCs then and the PCs allowed you to run
>>> either DOS, IBM DOS, Windows 3.1, 95, Linux, unix ect to let you
>>> run the PC they way you wanted it to run which is still very true
>>> today. Not many Macs could let you get away with that with the
>>> exception of Virtual PC but you had to have a certain model of Mac
>>> to accomplish that feat.
>> 
>> I really think you had better re-read this and edit accordingly -
>> Linux in 1980?
>
>No but there were several 16-bit Unixlike OSes around back then. There was
>even a nice shell program called 4DOS that was very Unixlike.
>
>-- 
>Pete Holsberg
>Columbus, NJ
>
>"Only a mediocre person is always at his best."
>  -- W. Somerset Maugham
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