On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 08:48:27 -0700, you wrote:

>On 30 Jul 2006 at 10:54, Hugh Gundersen wrote:
>
>> So pass the buck if you want to pay.  Ok so I am not the pentagon or
>> the bank of England and it's a risk crossing the road but you asked
>> about FTP servers and I gave you my 2c worth so please don't start an
>> argument over my comments that are meant to help.  If you don't like
>> the advice don't take it or don't ask.
>
>I said in my OP that I had checked out external FTP services providers, if I 
>didn't make that clear enough, my bad, however no where in my original 
>posting did I ask about setting up my own ftp server in house...
>
>> That is what you are paid for.  However many if not all ISP that offer
>> web site space use FTP servers for uploading and they don't panic!
>
>Yes, they also lock it down in a way that would not be appropriate for what's 
>needed as per my original posting.

So don't cross the road then you won't get hit.
>
>FTP isn't terrible, it's just inherrently risky, plain text passwords of ANY 
>variety are just plain dangerous.  

Who said anything about PLAIN TEXT passwords?

I use "Serve-U 6.3" ---- go have a look see.....

>
>If I got a dollar for each time I had to explain to a client why checking 
>email or using ftp is dangerous when on a non-trusted network (like the 
>neighbours wifi connection), I'd have retired long ago.

If got a dollar for the same thing in different areas then I would still
have my Lamborghini, 42' cruiser and ex-wife in tow (shit forget the ex
I'd rather stick with what I got (Hmm))

>
>I am of the mindset that there should be no plaintext passwords crossing any 
>network period! That includes internal lans.

Good for you - I hear they are making a film about "DALLAS" go you can
sit comfortably and watch in peace without any password problems.
>
>If one is using ssl'ifed ftp or scp, or sftp, that's a whole other ballgame, 
>however given that most people don't know how to use secure ftp and complain 
>vociferously when forced to use it, I don't see regular ftp as an option on 
>any FTP server I am hosting.

As I said above GO TO the "Serve-U" web site and download the super-pro
version that handles SSL etc. then buy a licence and don't argue about
being blind to all except your own opinions.
>

Sir Hugh of Bognor
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            you thought I said but what you thought you heard wasn't
           exactly what I said.

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