On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Wayne Johnson wrote:
Some would say that I take even less precautions while
running as admin but also have never gotten ANYTHING. I run
an antique version of McAfee [4.51] but with the latest DATs,
Lavasoft's Ad-Aware SE Pro w/ it's latest definitions,
Spybot's S&D, IE with custom security settings & only allow
Eudora to download messages under 20k which stops most
attachments from getting thru which forces me to download the
attachments on a case by case basis...
Me too. :) But seriously, I use Pine (what's that?), so I can
not click on anything, even by accident. :) And I can see the
actual links, not what they want you to see. BTW I noticed
Eudora 7 now throws up a warning if the displayed link does not
match the actual link. Outlook can also be setup to display the
actual link right beside the message link.
Security is more a state of mind than a series of precautions
so I can act like an idiot other wise. Just because one wears
a seat belt doesn't mean they should drive like a NASCAR
driver...
I agree, with both you and Bernie. :) Just because I have all
the "goodies" (AV, Firewall, etc) does NOT mean I think I can
do whatever I want. That would be (is) false security. Just
like a seatbelt can lead to false security. Sure it helps, but
plenty of people have died while wearing them. One should drive
defensively *ALL* the time, and not let their guard down just
because the belt is strapped around the neck, er I mean torso.
But then again there are plenty of people that *NEED* to be
running a limited account (if they are allowed to even be near
a computer), just like there are people that should not be
driving. Reminds me of the "Put the computer back in the box,
take it back to the store, and tell them you are too stupid to
own a computer" joke/urban legend. :) I tell some people around
here that I am going to revoke their license to operate a
computer, with some of the crap they pull off that just leaves
me speechless. That's so I don't tell them they are too...
BTW I guess I should differentiate between those that perhaps
are (or stayed) newbies (even if they have been at it for
several years), and those that are just plain STUPID (like
Wayne's wannabe FBI hacker client). The first group can be
educated to varying degrees and protected somewhat. There is no
hope for the second group.
OBTW IMNSHO every one should be behind a router even if they
only have one machine. SMC use to make a router for those
that are stuck using dialup but I don't know if they still
make it.
I still regularly get the "but I only have one computer. Aren't
routers just for networking?" replies when I suggest a router.
One cable company, that should know better, actually was
telling it's broadband clients they didn't need a router when
they asked. I just about fainted at that one. I found that out
while cleaning (many times, it was "nuke and pave[TM]") a
number of computers that had one thing in common, the cable
broadband connection. Well maybe two things in common... :) To
be fair though, it was the *sales* dept that was none too
bright.
3Com also used to have a dial-up router, and I believe Richard
once posted having a router with dial-up capabilities as well.
Now that broadband has become so popular, dial-up routers are
rare. Surprisingly, there was a Dell POS wireless router that
actually had dial-up backup. :) But that was about 6 years ago.
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