I just want to say that I also think it's worth keeping an older kernel
around to run Win4lin. This product enabled me to remain in linux to work
so, only for that, I'm grateful. Kernel 2.4 is a huge leap forward and I
suspect that the changes involved were not that simple. Going from kernel
2.2 to 2.4 is like going from Win95 to Win98. They look almost the same but
under the hood, it's different. Now, linux kernel didn't make all the stupid
moves Win98 did (yeah, sometimes I regret Win95) but the point is that it
require heavy development from Netraverse.

The linux community is a very good one and, most of the time, their
philosophy is far better than closed-source vendors. For example, Symantec
clearly tell on his site that if you don't have WindowsME, then don't
upgrade to SystemWorks 2001 because it's essentially the same product... Get
it? In Windows world, these things are so common that we are used to accept
them passively. In the linux community, we are more concerned about the
products evolution so the Win4lin situation is making us angry.

>From what I understand, Netraverse had many difficulties and
restructurations during the 2.0 development so it's understandable that they
want to charge for the update. Just the VNET support is worth the upgrade
alone! I want to say that I'll buy Win4lin 3.0 when it's out because I
believe it's an EXCELLENT upgrade (far better than most vendors upgrades).
However, I think we must continue to express ourselves on the situation so
Netraverse understand that they will ultimately succeed by cooperating with
the community. If they had done so, kernel 2.4 support could have been ready
for a long time. Just think about it: Mandrake was the first red hat based
distro to allow access to a constant beta (cooker) and a forum to talk with
the developers. Now, Mandrake is among the most respected and loved
distribution. I think Netraverse is already on the right direction but
putting this mailing list and answering some of its questions. I encourage
them to continue.

Just my 2 cents (which are worth about 3 US cents... see if I care ;))
Coronya



On 6 Apr 2001, Victor Zandy wrote:

>
> Although I rarely use Windows, sometimes I really need it.
>
> For such occasions, Windows used to take up a third of the 4GB disk on
> my laptop.  Win4Lin enabled me to replace that partition with a
> smaller Windows installation based on a set of Linux files.  When I
> need the space, I just compress Win4Lin or squirrel it away.  This is
> a marvelous improvement, one for which I'm happy to pay $80 or
> whatever.
>
> Win4Lin also allows me to do MOST of the things I usually do under
> Linux while I'm using Windows.  I regularly use several versions of
> the Linux kernel, only a few of which are compatible with Win4Lin.  So
> sometimes I have to reboot my laptop to use Win4Lin, just as I have to
> reboot it every other time I need to use a different kernel.  But I
> don't care.  I never do anything else that depends on the kernel
> version when I'm using Win4Lin.
>
> The linux kernel, both major and minor versions, is a fast moving
> target.  Win4Lin is amazing.  It is stable, it is fast, and as far as
> I'm concerned, it behaves just like Windows.  I admire the skill of
> the Netraverse hackers.  As they do what they can to keep up with
> Linux, I'm very happy to keep around an older kernel, to make it my
> primary kernel during the times when I need to use Win4Lin -- and to
> pay money for that.
>
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