For what it's worth, Microsoft has a separate download package of MFC for end users that is identified on its site as the "Microsoft Libraries Update." <http://www.microsoft.com/windows/downloads/default.asp?p>. The installer is the same file name for all Win32 systems, SPEU.EXE. I'm in wind-down mode for some medical leave so didn't have time to evaluate the accompanying license extensively, but it may be more lax than the Visual Studio license for developers. -- Paul E. Merrell, E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WordPerfect Links: http://www.wpwin.com/links.html WordPerfect Linux Links: http://www.qwkscreen.com/WPLinuxLinks.html WP8 FAQ: http://w3.one.net/~kgibson/wp8faq.htm WP7 Help: http://home.earthlink.net/~tlhuffman/wp7/wp7help.htm Search WP web sites: http://www.wpwriter.com/You_Find_the_Answer/you_find_the_answer.html