On 2002.02.08 14:48 Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: > On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Sean Farley wrote: > > > Just relax and take deep breaths. :) As should we all. > > It's difficult, because I see, once again, how the discussion deviates to > mostly irrelevant topics. Quite frankly, I am very dissapointed with the > current debate: > > -- I provide arguments which details the feedback mechanism generated > by > each license. What do I get back: "nobody stops companies from > contributing back under BSD" or "it is possible that companies will still > contribute back under BSD", and crap like that. If people don't > udnerstand > that a system survives not on political will but on feedback loops > built-in the system, they don't understand how the world works, and we're > just wasting time. > Small correction:
If people don't understand that some people are decent and contribute back regardless of whether they are forced to or not, but others are not and require a feedback loop to force this behavior, then they don't understand how the world works and we're just wasting time. > -- instead of focusing the discussion on what's important for Wine, we > get incredible FUD as "people will be afraid to link against the LGPL". > > -- we get arguments of the form: "it is possible that..." But of course > is "possible", for crying out loud!!! Everything is possible, but we > should be concerned with what's _probable_! > > I'll stop here, because I'm too upset to continue, to be honest... > I think it's more of an issue of people thinking too much in black/white terms and people that lean strong towards one side or the other. Look no further than the US political system for a good example. You have the Republicans and the Democrats. Generally they take every issue to opposite ends of the extreme such that 99% of congress is at one extreme or the other, but 99% of the population wants neither extreme. Essentially we could go on forver about X11/BSD vs. GPL. It's been discussed to death already folks. What we need are reasonable compromises. Of course you need to have people willing to compromise to do that. I suspect most developers are with the exception of the view vocal BSD people and the few vocal LGPL all the way people. I myself am certainly not at either extreme. -Dave