Kai Blin wrote:
* "Tom Spear (Dustin Booker, Dustin Navea)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [23/04/06,
11:40:39]:
Yes you do, but personally I hate the appdb, and im rarely ever going to
pull up irc even though it is installed, because i dont like having to
switch networks back and forth.
[...]
I'm sure that the majority of users (the non-techies anyways) will
second most of what I said above. I think the winehq site suffers from
information overload (theres waaaay too much info all over it), and so
putting a forum in will make things a lot easier to maintain..
How will a forum make maintance easier? I would see that for a Wiki
where everybody can edit.. but a forum?
See directly below.. People see all of these choices on where to go to
get help, but dont like any of them (dont want to be flooded with
emails, dont want to search the archives, or it isnt in the archives,
dont know how to use bugzilla and dont want to learn, dont like the
appdb, etc, etc, etc), so they go to somewhere else. The wiki isnt
really designed for posting questions to, so they dont use that either..
Personally I think all we need is winehq, bugzilla, the mailing lists
and the forums. IRC can stay, but lets make it our own server,
irc.winehq.org, so that we have some control over what happens.. versus
not having any control when the server dies. Come to think of it, I
have been netadmin for multiple irc networks, and server admin on
several others. Hell most of my C experience was in modifying servers
to do what I wanted, and to fix bugs that the devs didn't properly
fix... I may be a bit rusty, but I would be glad to get another shell
account somewhere and host irc.winehq.org out of my own pocket (maybe
with a little help from the fund, but not much), and at the same time I
can put the forums on there too..
Two things:
* How would getting our own IRC server fix the "having to switch
networks back and forth" problem? As opposed to freenode, where I can
hang out in #wine-devel, #winehq, #samba-technical and so on, I now
need to switch networks if I want to go from #wine-devel to
#samba-technical.
It doesnt prevent that, it just makes it easier to control how fast the
server comes back up in the event it goes down for whatever reason..
* You said some paragraphs before that you didn't like IRC. Why do you
suddenly volunteer to run a server?
I didnt say I didnt like IRC, matter of fact I love it, but I have too
much other things running on my computer and going on in my life to keep
something like xchat or mirc (depending on what box im on) open all the
time like i do for thunderbird.. If I'm renting a shell, I setup the
server and forget about it, plus I'm more likely to spend time in
#winehq, etc, if I am running the server it is on, because that way I
can monitor when it goes down, etc.
Tom
Just my EUR 0.02
Kai
