Jayne & Mary, thanks for sharing this with all of us. It just doesn’t seem 
fair, but death never is. I had the joy of working with David in the 2005 
reunion where he captured my heartfelt  friendship. I was thrilled when he 
married Alan and loved his posts and photos on Facebook  from their travels 
everywhere. Hopefully we can do a memorial for him at Winedale,  sometime, and 
share memories and pay tribute to this “Puckish”, delightful man. I hope the 
rest of you are doing ok- until we meet again in the forest-love, Lynn 😘
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 26, 2026, at 4:15 PM, 'carl smith' via Shakespeare at Winedale Email 
List <[email protected]> wrote:

 Sorry to hear this. Hope his husband is ok.

Sadness comes with all this evidence that he leaves a trail of ongoing love and 
beauty in many lives.

Love to all. We need all the goodness this ecosystem (and others like it) can 
muster right now, that’s for sure!



On Jan 26, 2026, at 1:21 PM, '[email protected]' via Shakespeare at Winedale 
Email List <[email protected]> wrote:

David was an absolute sweetheart--  immediately warm and welcoming.  And so 
funny.  I feel lucky that I got to know him at the reunions and got to see him 
in action.  He tickled me.

I love you guys
Terry

On Monday, January 26, 2026 at 11:40:46 AM EST, Anne Smith via Winedale-l 
<[email protected]> wrote:


As a 90s Winedale alum, I heard many a tale of David, a Plan II genius, which 
made him the man, the myth, the legend to us. And then having the good fortune 
to get to know him via Reunions, I understood why. And I then could be in awe 
of the beautiful human he was. His timing was impeccable. His gift for finding 
deep moments of play was a joy to watch. Never a showboat, he stole many a 
performance moment, while (usually!!) staying in bounds of the text and the 
story. I can still chuckle about all of his “noting” during Much Adonin 2015.

I’m so sad to learn of his passing. We few, we happy few, are quite lucky to 
have known him.

Anne

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 26, 2026, at 10:43 AM, Mary Collins <[email protected]> wrote:


Dearest Jayne,

     What an obituary! It captures The mercurial David, and I learned so much 
about him while reading it. Thank you for sending it. Like you, I send love to 
All,

Mary

Mary Collins
646-554-3076
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>


On Sun, Jan 25, 2026 at 3:08 PM Jayne Mack Suhler 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

For those of you who knew and loved David, his 
obituary<https://www.legacy.com/legacy/david-ziegler?ttm_pid=210749124&ttm_affiliate=legacyremembers&ttm_affiliatetype=standard&ttm_campaign=legacy>.
 This has also been posted on his Facebook page. Love to all, Jayne



From: 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>"
 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
 on behalf of Michael Godwin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Reply-To: 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>"
 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Friday, January 9, 2026 at 1:13 PM
To: Shakespeare Winedale 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>,
 Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: Welcome to 2026! Plus some content.



P.S. As the prince told Gertrude, "arras me no more questions, and I'll kill 
you no more guys."



Love, Mike







On Fri, Jan 9, 2026 at 1:45 PM Michael Godwin 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



A couple of people have noted that our message traffic on the big Winedale 
mailing lists has dropped a lot since Thanksgiving. This is understandable, I 
think, because 2025 was an eventful, and frequently stressful year, even though 
a lot of us managed to get together and commune and share time with one 
another, which I very much appreciate.



(This is where Google AI is suggesting to me all sorts of bromides to finish 
off this email, which may be a sign of how much progress AI still needs to make 
in guessing what I might want to say!)



I do have a couple of things I want to share, though.



(a) HAMNET, which I first heard about as a novel from other alums (I think 
maybe Susan Gayle Todd first brought it to my attention), is now a movie, which 
I'm dying to see but which isn't yet in anything like wide release. I think 
maybe I can arrange to see it this weekend--if I do, I'll report back.  (I know 
from second-hand reports that there's more of Shakespeare's text in it than 
there is in the novel, and my thought is, how can that be anything but good? 
Not that this is a criticism of the novel, though.)



(b) I wrote a little essay that seems to be getting some traction among those 
who read me regularly, and so I thought I might share it with you too. See 
below. Needs a good title.



------------------------



Multiply 260 by 0.667, and you get 173 and change. One year ago, I weighed 260 
pounds (about 118 kg). This morning, I weighed very slightly less than 173 
pounds. I want to emphasize here that although I’m pleased with this progress, 
it would be a mistake to say that I’m “proud” of it—the success in getting back 
down into the 170s is attributable to the American Pharma Industry developing 
suitable drugs to address (and reverse) problems created by the American Food 
Industry. (My ultimate goal, if you must know, is probably somewhere around 
160–I’m five-foot-eight, about an inch shorter than I was in college, so not 
too terrible a decline in height.)

What I brought to the table (so to speak) was my willingness to find ways to 
afford medications that my insurance would not yet cover. It may do so now—will 
check at refill time. If you want to know what role my willpower and resolve 
played, it’s this: I made the decision to prioritize fixing a persistent health 
problem that dates from my early 20s. Although I had been overweight from time 
to time before then, true obesity itself didn’t start manifesting for me until 
about 1980. For a long time I thought it was something particular to my own 
life that had changed. (I had graduated from college, was trying to figure out 
next steps in work and education, wasn’t always eating the best food, started 
drinking more—alcohol is a great analgesic, and putting on weight quickly tends 
to increase one’s daily aches and pains.) Did I exercise? Why, yes, and I also 
developed significant muscle mass, which was helpful in moving around a much 
larger version of myself. (It should be noted that the rise in gym memberships 
in the USA tracks the obesity stats—Americans were investing in working out 
more *at the very same time* that obesity was on its abrupt rise.)

But what I was slow to recognize was that the same problems I was having 
(fairly rapid increase in weight, increasing experiments with dietary change in 
the hopes of reversing the lurch into obesity—experiments that ultimately 
weren’t successful and that may even have made things worse) were not specific 
to me, but in fact were accelerating through the U.S. population and then 
quickly afterwards in most of the developed world. The global stats showed that 
this was happening everywhere in reasonably prosperous or quickly developing 
countries soon after this obesity acceleration manifested in the USA.

The chief candidate as a source of the problem seemed straightforward, a 
quarter of a century after 1980: the industrialized production of food as a 
product shaped as much by applied chemistry as by agriculture. One reason 
Michael Pollan’s FOOD RULES and other writing on how to eat have continued to 
be current for years even as various diet books have fallen by the wayside is 
that they shift our attention to, inter alia, buying one’s food around the edge 
of the supermarket—that’s where the more natural, and more recently grown, 
produce at, e.g., Whole Foods and Safeway, lives.

But while following Pollan’s prescriptions (I’m using the word 
metaphorically—he’s a science journalist, not a doctor) might help someone 
avoid the sources of the obesity epidemic, it’s less successful in reversing 
that epidemic. For someone like me—and here I still hesitate to share that for 
a long time weighing in the mid-200s of pounds signified success for me, 
because for one mercifully brief period in the late 1990s I crossed the 
300-pound line—more proactive interventions, including medical interventions, 
seemed necessary. Part of getting my weight to move in the downward direction 
was bariatric surgery (in late 2004), which certainly helped keep me alive long 
enough to reach the era of Ozempic et al., but which, as is the case with most 
weight-loss surgery, was only partially successful in returning to non-obesity 
… or achieving it in the first place. (Childhood obesity is a major thing now 
in the USA and elsewhere—earlier in my lifetime, it wasn’t.)

So here I am in 2026, weighing at least a few pounds less than I did when 
entering college in 1975, trying to make sense of where I am now. The guy I see 
in the mirror is visibly older, but in most respects better looking and fitter 
than I have been for most of my adult life. But I also have to wonder what my 
life might have been like if I had never had this particular health issue … 
well, “weighing me down” seems like an appropriate trope.

I hope to make up, in the time I have left, the progress in my professional 
work that I might have achieved had I been healthier over most of the last four 
or five decades. But I should stress that there have been a few ways in which 
my path has been helpful to me professionally and personally. First, I really 
have done an immense amount of avocational academic research to get a handle on 
the problem—here I credit my undergraduate education at UT Austin for building 
in me the habit of reading scientific papers on the regular, rather than mere 
journalistic or other popular accounts of what the research may or may not 
show. I also acquired a certain amount of persnicketiness when it comes to 
experimental models, for which I should credit Plan II philosophy (at UT 
Austin) for introducing me to Karl Popper’s work specifically, and the 
philosophy of science generally.

My work as a journalist and as a lawyer has also made me more careful about 
sourcing what I post or publish, which is all to the good, even when the topic 
in question is not food or medicine or even science generally.

But most important, I think, is that my inability to solve my particular 
problems through application of willpower/resolve has made me more sympathetic 
to other people who can’t just willpower their ways out of their difficulties, 
which may be health-related or rooted in something else. I listen better now, I 
think. Now if I could just trigger an epidemic of better reading, better 
listening, and greater willingness to question one’s own theories at least as 
much as one critically examines those of others—that would be something I could 
really be proud of.



-----------



That's it! Hope to see you all again soon!



Love,



Mike





--
Be vigitant, I beseech you!
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Shakespeare at Winedale Email List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>.
To view this discussion visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/shakespeare-at-winedale-email-list/CAKFh3H-D9Jfg%2B8Rba5vY-7cSRyarcuifYFAX%2B4Rz%3D5RFZMeURw%40mail.gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/shakespeare-at-winedale-email-list/CAKFh3H-D9Jfg%2B8Rba5vY-7cSRyarcuifYFAX%2B4Rz%3D5RFZMeURw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>.


--
Be vigitant, I beseech you!
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Shakespeare at Winedale Email List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>.
To view this discussion visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/shakespeare-at-winedale-email-list/BYAPR20MB246939F51EE7CC72ABE5DB4EA792A%40BYAPR20MB2469.namprd20.prod.outlook.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/shakespeare-at-winedale-email-list/BYAPR20MB246939F51EE7CC72ABE5DB4EA792A%40BYAPR20MB2469.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>.


--
Be vigitant, I beseech you!
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Shakespeare at Winedale Email List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>.
To view this discussion visit
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/shakespeare-at-winedale-email-list/CA%2B8OBZVPHfED6J4UB78_sbqKZfEXnrGoxar1YiNAKh1eSV8F1Q%40mail.gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/shakespeare-at-winedale-email-list/CA%2B8OBZVPHfED6J4UB78_sbqKZfEXnrGoxar1YiNAKh1eSV8F1Q%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>
.
_______________________________________________
Winedale-l mailing list -- 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
To unsubscribe send an email to 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

--
Be vigitant, I beseech you!
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Shakespeare at Winedale Email List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>.
To view this discussion visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/shakespeare-at-winedale-email-list/394116662.2650526.1769462504949%40mail.yahoo.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/shakespeare-at-winedale-email-list/394116662.2650526.1769462504949%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>.


--
Be vigitant, I beseech you!
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Shakespeare at Winedale Email List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>.
To view this discussion visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/shakespeare-at-winedale-email-list/8B36A3E2-E0F4-43DF-9AA3-7772ED0A2481%40mac.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/shakespeare-at-winedale-email-list/8B36A3E2-E0F4-43DF-9AA3-7772ED0A2481%40mac.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>.
_______________________________________________
Winedale-l mailing list -- [email protected]
To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]

Reply via email to